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FDGunner01

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Current Arsenal ?
« on: May 13, 2015, 11:08:48 AM »
Hey guys here is my current arsenal as of right now.... I would like to like add a new piece or 2 or maybe just replace a few with some newer stuff... Our THS is medium/Med Heavy on 3yr old synthetics... Bowl 8-10 tournaments a year...Based on what I have... does anyone have any recommendations...


Stats:
Right Handed, 15.5 -16.5 mph, above avg rev rate, high track

Strongest - Weakest:

Hyper Cell Solid
Virtual Gravity Solid (Orig)
Hyper Cell Skid
Out Cry
Hot Sauce Pearl
DV8 Terror
Cross Road
Shout (Red/Blue)
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spmcgivern

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Re: Current Arsenal ?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2015, 01:24:39 PM »
I think you would benefit from having something out of the IQ line.  Low differential to be able to combat flatter conditions you may see in some of your tournaments.  I would lean to the IQ Tour Solid over the Nano because of your rev dominance.  Another option is the Motiv Venom Shock which is similar to the IQ Tour Solid, lower differential and solid cover, but will be a tad weaker overall.

Other than that, I would only look at perhaps replacing some aging pieces. 

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Re: Current Arsenal ?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2015, 02:06:19 PM »
Here are a couple of suggestions that you can add or replace pieces in your arsenal:
  Guru Mighty - strong core with a hybrid style coverstock to go between the Hyper Cell Skid and the Virtual.
  Yeti Uncaged - One of my favorites (I'm a high track above avg rev guy also) this will cover a wide range of medium patterns that you may run into. Good THS and Sport pattern ball.
  Grease Monkey Whack! - Another favorite of mine. Plays very nice on the medium to light patterns when my Uncaged is reading to early I'll switch to the Whack and I'm able to get the length and still get the recovery I need.
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FDGunner01

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Re: Current Arsenal ?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2015, 01:49:29 PM »
Here are a couple of suggestions that you can add or replace pieces in your arsenal:
  Guru Mighty - strong core with a hybrid style coverstock to go between the Hyper Cell Skid and the Virtual.
  Yeti Uncaged - One of my favorites (I'm a high track above avg rev guy also) this will cover a wide range of medium patterns that you may run into. Good THS and Sport pattern ball.
  Grease Monkey Whack! - Another favorite of mine. Plays very nice on the medium to light patterns when my Uncaged is reading to early I'll switch to the Whack and I'm able to get the length and still get the recovery I need.

Out of the Yeti and GMW... Are any of them pin down or are both of them pin up? If pin down, what kind of reaction do you see? Just wondering since you are high track guy like me... I have not had very good luck with my last couple of balls that have been pin down
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Re: Current Arsenal ?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2015, 06:29:37 PM »
Hey guys here is my current arsenal as of right now.... I would like to like add a new piece or 2 or maybe just replace a few with some newer stuff... Our THS is medium/Med Heavy on 3yr old synthetics... Bowl 8-10 tournaments a year...Based on what I have... does anyone have any recommendations...


Stats:
Right Handed, 15.5 -16.5 mph, above avg rev rate, high track

Strongest - Weakest:

Hyper Cell Solid
Virtual Gravity Solid (Orig)
Hyper Cell Skid
Out Cry
Hot Sauce Pearl
DV8 Terror
Cross Road
Shout (Red/Blue)

I think there are some opportunities where you may be able to consolidate some balls while creating more defined stepdowns.  That's one of the things I've been able to do with the Motiv line as I've started switching my arsenal over.

For you, I could see the following:

Hyper Cell Solid
Motiv Jackal (replaces both the Skid and Terror)
Storm Original VG Solid
Motiv Revolt Vengeance (replaces the Outcry and Hot Sauce Pearl)
Cross Road
Shout (Red/Blue)

Overall, I think that these choices could really match up for you and can allow you to be even more competitive.  By simplifying the arsenal, there are less decisions to make in a tournament on what you'll go with while knowing what each piece can do and how it fits. 

The reason I suggested Motiv here is that their balls have been very impressive as of late.  Currently I used a mixed Storm/RG/Motiv arsenal and the Motiv covers require a lot less maintenance.  They take surface changes well, don't soak up as much oil, and tend to keep their reaction longer.  Plus, they seem to be a bit more versatile overall while still being similar to what you see with the Storm/RG reactions.  Definitely a great line to check out.
Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

EL3MCNEIL

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Re: Current Arsenal ?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 01:19:24 AM »
Hey guys here is my current arsenal as of right now.... I would like to like add a new piece or 2 or maybe just replace a few with some newer stuff... Our THS is medium/Med Heavy on 3yr old synthetics... Bowl 8-10 tournaments a year...Based on what I have... does anyone have any recommendations...


Stats:
Right Handed, 15.5 -16.5 mph, above avg rev rate, high track

Strongest - Weakest:

Hyper Cell Solid
Virtual Gravity Solid (Orig)
Hyper Cell Skid
Out Cry
Hot Sauce Pearl
DV8 Terror
Cross Road
Shout (Red/Blue)

I think there are some opportunities where you may be able to consolidate some balls while creating more defined stepdowns.  That's one of the things I've been able to do with the Motiv line as I've started switching my arsenal over.

For you, I could see the following:

Hyper Cell Solid
Motiv Jackal (replaces both the Skid and Terror)
Storm Original VG Solid
Motiv Revolt Vengeance (replaces the Outcry and Hot Sauce Pearl)
Cross Road
Shout (Red/Blue)

Overall, I think that these choices could really match up for you and can allow you to be even more competitive.  By simplifying the arsenal, there are less decisions to make in a tournament on what you'll go with while knowing what each piece can do and how it fits. 

The reason I suggested Motiv here is that their balls have been very impressive as of late.  Currently I used a mixed Storm/RG/Motiv arsenal and the Motiv covers require a lot less maintenance.  They take surface changes well, don't soak up as much oil, and tend to keep their reaction longer.  Plus, they seem to be a bit more versatile overall while still being similar to what you see with the Storm/RG reactions.  Definitely a great line to check out.

I'd agree with tommyboy74, that consolidating your arsenal could allow you to make easier choices and actually open up opportunities to try new things. Plus the balls that you take out you can still use and swap out when you see fit.

If I had your current arsenal I would bench the VG Solid, DV8 Terror,Hot Sauce Pearl, and Cross Road. That would leave the HC Solid, HC Skid, OutCry, and Shout. If I wanted to add something and stay with Roto Grip I would add an Unhinged, or wait until all of the releases come out this summer before adding another piece.
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robertbrowder

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Re: Current Arsenal ?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 06:45:06 AM »
Here are a couple of suggestions that you can add or replace pieces in your arsenal:
  Guru Mighty - strong core with a hybrid style coverstock to go between the Hyper Cell Skid and the Virtual.
  Yeti Uncaged - One of my favorites (I'm a high track above avg rev guy also) this will cover a wide range of medium patterns that you may run into. Good THS and Sport pattern ball.
  Grease Monkey Whack! - Another favorite of mine. Plays very nice on the medium to light patterns when my Uncaged is reading to early I'll switch to the Whack and I'm able to get the length and still get the recovery I need.

Out of the Yeti and GMW... Are any of them pin down or are both of them pin up? If pin down, what kind of reaction do you see? Just wondering since you are high track guy like me... I have not had very good luck with my last couple of balls that have been pin down
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Both of them are pin down (45 x 5-9/16 x 70). Both of them give good length with an aggressive backend reaction and that is due to the formulations that were used in the coverstocks. The Uncaged does read the lane a little sooner than the Whack but that is due to the cores of each ball. When you look at the information sheets for both of these balls there is no actual name for the coverstocks it gives you the finish that was put on them. That is because the "Mad Scientists" at Radical/Brunswick formulate each line/ball coverstock to the reaction that Phil and Mo are looking for. I've had very good success since making the switch to Radical 2 years ago.
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