Rough, really rough. I'm working 70ish hours a week now, so I was tired and really not on my game at all, but everyone throughout the league had it nearly as rough as I did. Defy is underwhelming so far to say the least. This house had Ice last year, and with no change to the pattern, Defy plays drier, and breaks down more quickly than Ice. It could just be that we're having warmer weather right now, everything seems to play drier in the summer here, so I'm not going to pass judgment yet, but so far it didn't go well for anyone. In a league full of the best bowlers in the area, 20 of whom average 220+, only a handful shot over 650. The third game was a disaster, couldn't get far enough left, and when you did, balls were burning up trying to make the turn. Again, I threw the ball terrible all night, I haven't bowled that bad in years, but this is based more on observation than experience. Could just be the weather, may need to make some adjustments too, but we'll see how it goes. Initial impressions aren't favorable though.