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jkiser01

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Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« on: January 15, 2004, 06:20:59 AM »
Guys,

I need an opinion here. I was wanting to do a transaction with someone on this forum that didn't have any feedback. He told me he was new to the site and I understood all of that but..

I then ask the seller if he would send the item COD since I have such great feedback on here and have a very good reputation and he flat out said NO..

Was what I ask the seller to do that big of a big deal?? I didn't think it was asking that much. Not only do I have flawless feedback here, but sending it COD protects BOTH the buyer and seller.. He would also be covered in case I all of sudden decided to screw someone!! LOL.. A little humor there..

He said if I needed feedback to do a deal, then forget it..

Let me add that out email conversations went very well and he even sent me a photo of the item but with all of the bad deals that seem to be happening here, I was just trying to be careful..

Was I out of line asking him to do a COD??

Just wanted to get some opinions on this..

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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2004, 10:56:28 PM »
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Was I out of line asking him to do a COD??

 


No, I dont think so.  I usually like to only deal with people who have some decent history on this site understanding that not every deal with go smoothly but the majority should be.  With a new user it would only be sensible to be cautious.
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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2004, 11:46:57 PM »
I dealt with a guy once who had no history on this site.  We were supposed to trade his Trauma ER for my Apex Intensity.  Well, he screwed me.  I was raised to always be honest and trustworthy.  I sent the ball and lost out big time.  So, from now on I always require at least one positive feedback.  

I feel it is necessary to do whatever you have to make yourself feel good about the deal.  If you require 40 references so be it.  I don't have any problems with what you did.  However, I would be leary about sending something COD.  

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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2004, 12:09:25 AM »
In light of some of the scams pulled, I would never deal with someone who had no references or positive feedback! Harsh? Maybe....but hey, one only gets screwed if one lets themselves be screwed!


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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2004, 03:24:43 AM »
COD is perfectly reasonable and acceptable for a first time trader.

In the audio world in which I also trade, the prices involved are significantly higher, from $100 to $20,000.00 or more so feedback is also of much greater importance. WHat has often happened with COD items is thatthe buyer refuses delivery and the seller is stuck for the shipping costs, which, with insurance and packaging for expensive items, can also cost a lot. Next problem is that technically speaking you cannot examine a COD item until you pay the shipper CASH! That means you can pay for it, get it, open it and find you paid $1000.00 for a box of bricks! That has happened. So often buyers will first be asked to send payment for the shipping costs up front, so that the seller has recompense if the buyer changes his mind and refuses delivery.


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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2004, 05:20:05 AM »
Thanks for all the comments.. Like I said, I didn't think my request to sending the item COD was that big of a deal..

Let me also add, if this was  $40-$45 item, I would probably have done it and took that chance, but it was $125. I had good vibes with this guy in the beginning but after I requested the COD, his attitude changed.. Oh well..
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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2004, 08:14:51 AM »
No you are perfectly in the right to ask that

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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2004, 09:08:17 AM »
jkiser,

I usually try to view things from both sides. If this guy had no feedback, and had not pulled off a trade here yet, he has to be able to start somewhere. BUT from the sounds of it, he did get a bad attitude, and I would probably have stayed away from it.

I have only had a problem once, I think everyone remembers my "record breaking post" about xxxpipologyxxx. I ended up with something, not what I wanted, but I did not lose much----he only got a ball that I really didn't want anyways. Other than COD----another route you may be able to go is having the guy get a paypal account. You have to consider that maybe he is not really familiar with shipping stuff, thus the reason he would be leary of the COD.



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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2004, 09:09:32 AM »
charlest,

I have a few older manhattan rubber bowling balls I could sell you for $100-$20,000. I would not ask for references either, just send the check*L*
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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2004, 09:31:54 AM »
All I can say is C.O.D with a new person is fair and the way to go. I would be suspicious of someone who was offended by the suggestion of C.O.D. after stating your reasons. Remember this guy: Trackfreak

He mysteriously disappeared after all his problems, I'm sure he's still around under a new name. I think you did the right thing, the deal would have been completed and the new guy would have recieved some positive feedback. If there was an extra fee to do it C.O.D., I would consider it part of developing a positive feedback for future transactions with members of the board.
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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2004, 09:43:16 AM »
shotmaker,

I for sure remember trackfreak.. He ripped me off on a 3 ball track bag. He is a real loser.  I tried to explain my side to this user and he didn't agree with me at all. He said if I needed feedback to do the deal, then NO DEAL!!

Oh well..
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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2004, 10:19:50 AM »
If I remember correctly, there are additional fees involved with a COD transaction.  It would be worth checking on the website for whichever carrier you were going to use and the make the offer to pay those fees above and beyond whatever else was agreed to.

As an example, I just checked what it would cost to ship a ball on my UPS account from Austin to New York, with UPS Ground as the delivery option.  COD charges add $7.50 to the total.  In that light, I do not view it as unreasonable to decline a request to ship COD unless the buyer is offering to pay the extra fee.
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Re: Dealing with seller with NO feedback
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2004, 11:18:53 AM »
michelle,

I would have gladly paid the extra fees, but this user said NO way right from the start so I didn't even get the chance to offer that. He was not willing to work with me at all and I have great feedback here and offered numerous references and basically he said he didn't care anf that I was the one losing out, not him..
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