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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Rileybowler on February 06, 2022, 06:22:48 PM
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Randy has his heart broken today as the greatest bowler on the planet went down in defeat getting beaten by a score of 180. Maybe now when we tune in for a PBA event we will not have to listen to all the praise for Jason and very little for all the other bowlers.
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BTW 0-3 against him in match play and no complaints he’s just better
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Looks like Belmo was in the wrong ball. Once Simo changed to something stronger that turned the corner when the ball was sent out to the right he was in good shape. Belmo looked like he was going to stick with the Wolverine no matter what. He looked discombobulated in the 10th frame when he got up to bowl. EJ seemed to be in the wrong ball as well the Venom Shock. The last ball EJ used in the 10th frame looked like that's what he needed. Maybe the Venom Shock gave EJ a good look warming up. I didn't care who won or lost that was just my observation.
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I agree he may of thought he needed a big game after watching Anthony throw a few shots or just thought lanes were transitioning into a spot where he thought 250 was the number he had to chase
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The best bowler on the planet got beaten today by
The youngest bowler to win a major
The youngest bowler to win 2 majors
The youngest bowler to win 3 majors
But the youngest figured out what he needed to do with a great ball change decision and Anthony deserves the $100.000 he won today.
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Looks like Belmo was in the wrong ball. Once Simo changed to something stronger that turned the corner when the ball was sent out to the right he was in good shape. Belmo looked like he was going to stick with the Wolverine no matter what. He looked discombobulated in the 10th frame when he got up to bowl. EJ seemed to be in the wrong ball as well the Venom Shock. The last ball EJ used in the 10th frame looked like that's what he needed. Maybe the Venom Shock gave EJ a good look warming up. I didn't care who won or lost that was just my observation.
Yeah I don't get why Belmo stayed with the Wolverine. Way too much over/under. Simo was getting poor reaction with it as well and had he not switched to the Reality for the 9th/10th, Belmo's 168 is likely good enough to bowl EJ for the title.
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The best bowler on the planet got beaten today by
The youngest bowler to win a major
The youngest bowler to win 2 majors
The youngest bowler to win 3 majors
But the youngest figured out what he needed to do with a great ball change decision and Anthony deserves the $100.000 he won today.
I don't think anyone is disputing that, but it's not necessary to take potshots at Belmonte and Randy in order to make that point.
The fact is, Belmonte *is* the greatest bowler on the planet, and the greatest of his generation. Only total wins is keeping him from being unilaterally called the best of all time, and that's more a function of his age than anything. He'll be competing all the way up to his eligibility for PBA50, I'd bet. He's going to challenge Walter Ray's total title count, and he has a legitimate chance to double Earl's major title count before it's all said and done.
It's also a well-known fact that Belmonte himself identified Simonsen 5-6 years ago as the guy most likely to challenge whatever records he sets. Belmonte has plenty of respect for Simonsen and the feeling appears to be mutual. Let it play out, without the personal stuff. It's not needed.
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Have to admit I was shocked at what Belmo did regarding the ball change and not sure what he saw that made him think he needed to change balls. Think this was a case of over-analyzing instead of coming to the realization he didnt need to shoot 250 considering the pattern they were on. He just got done shooting 470 for two and decided to change. After shooting 470 for the first two, all it would have taken to win major #15 is 181 and 166 those final two games. On top of the fact the pattern is very flat; he used urethane which means there had to be some carry down near the breakpoint. Right??? So wouldnt you think a big skid/flip ball would be the last thing you would go to? Obviously sitting on a couch and watching is easier than being in the moment and having to make decisions on the fly. But this is Belmo we are talking about. Belmo just happened to show his human side yesterday as the worst possible time. Congrats to Simonson for making the gutsy call to switch to the Reality when he did.
Regarding Tackett; he went with old faithful and probably the ball that he used most of the week to get him to the show. However, he just threw it bad. So it didnt really matter what ball he was throwing. The fact that Simonson was using a tighter line with a stronger ball should have told him something. My guess is that he was deeper because he wanted to stay away from the area of the lane that saw urethane. But that is just a guess.
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The best bowler on the planet got beaten today by
The youngest bowler to win a major
The youngest bowler to win 2 majors
The youngest bowler to win 3 majors
But the youngest figured out what he needed to do with a great ball change decision and Anthony deserves the $100.000 he won today.
I don't think anyone is disputing that, but it's not necessary to take potshots at Belmonte and Randy in order to make that point.
The fact is, Belmonte *is* the greatest bowler on the planet, and the greatest of his generation. Only total wins is keeping him from being unilaterally called the best of all time, and that's more a function of his age than anything. He'll be competing all the way up to his eligibility for PBA50, I'd bet. He's going to challenge Walter Ray's total title count, and he has a legitimate chance to double Earl's major title count before it's all said and done.
It's also a well-known fact that Belmonte himself identified Simonsen 5-6 years ago as the guy most likely to challenge whatever records he sets. Belmonte has plenty of respect for Simonsen and the feeling appears to be mutual. Let it play out, without the personal stuff. It's not needed.
Randy repeatedly proclaims Jason as the greatest bowler on the planet and one would almost think he was in love with him. When Jason is on the show with Randy and dumb bell Rob one would think that Jason is the only one who knew how to bowl, it is a favoritism that is very evident from these 2 announcers which personally I get very tired of hearing. As far as the skills of Jason I nor anyone else can dispute and for the reasons stated above yes I do enjoy seeing him defeated. At one point in the past Jason did say that Anthony would be his heir apparent.
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The best bowler on the planet got beaten today by
The youngest bowler to win a major
The youngest bowler to win 2 majors
The youngest bowler to win 3 majors
But the youngest figured out what he needed to do with a great ball change decision and Anthony deserves the $100.000 he won today.
I don't think anyone is disputing that, but it's not necessary to take potshots at Belmonte and Randy in order to make that point.
The fact is, Belmonte *is* the greatest bowler on the planet, and the greatest of his generation. Only total wins is keeping him from being unilaterally called the best of all time, and that's more a function of his age than anything. He'll be competing all the way up to his eligibility for PBA50, I'd bet. He's going to challenge Walter Ray's total title count, and he has a legitimate chance to double Earl's major title count before it's all said and done.
It's also a well-known fact that Belmonte himself identified Simonsen 5-6 years ago as the guy most likely to challenge whatever records he sets. Belmonte has plenty of respect for Simonsen and the feeling appears to be mutual. Let it play out, without the personal stuff. It's not needed.
Randy repeatedly proclaims Jason as the greatest bowler on the planet and one would almost think he was in love with him. When Jason is on the show with Randy and dumb bell Rob one would think that Jason is the only one who knew how to bowl, it is a favoritism that is very evident from these 2 announcers which personally I get very tired of hearing. As far as the skills of Jason I nor anyone else can dispute and for the reasons stated above yes I do enjoy seeing him defeated. At one point in the past Jason did say that Anthony would be his heir apparent.
Yea, Randy would drop to his knees if he thought Belmonte was willing. But Randy is also infatuated with the human q-tip too.
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Fortunately or Unfortunately Belmo equals viewers.
He is the Dallas Cowboys/ NY Yankees/ LA Lakers of the bowling world. He has his fans and deservedly gets credit for making the 2 handed approach mainstream and has brought new bowlers into the sport. People also watch, to watch him lose.
He is the Tiger Woods of bowling. The PBA wanted a Superstar to build the world of bowling around and it's Jason. Soon it may be Anthony or Troup. One of the complaints I hear from the casual bowler is that they'll watch TV one week and then the next week, they're asking who are these 5 guys? It's a limit of bowling where only 5 guys get featured each week, while in golf, you can feature way more.
The casual bowler has no idea who Jake Peters is. They may some given his skillset, but if you talk to casual bowlers, Jason Belmonte is it.
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I agree. The unending Belmo praise is tiresome. However, he is the best doing it right now. Anthony was the first bowler that did not choke in the clutch, thus putting the pressure on Belmo in the tenth frame. Belmo choked. Plain and simple. I still would not have bet against Belmo in that situation. But he definitely choked.
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When Belmo got up in the tenth frame then he backed off and the camera was on his face and you could just tell that he was very concerned no confidence at all.
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Have to admit I was shocked at what Belmo did regarding the ball change and not sure what he saw that made him think he needed to change balls. Think this was a case of over-analyzing instead of coming to the realization he didnt need to shoot 250 considering the pattern they were on. He just got done shooting 470 for two and decided to change. After shooting 470 for the first two, all it would have taken to win major #15 is 181 and 166 those final two games. On top of the fact the pattern is very flat; he used urethane which means there had to be some carry down near the breakpoint. Right??? So wouldnt you think a big skid/flip ball would be the last thing you would go to? Obviously sitting on a couch and watching is easier than being in the moment and having to make decisions on the fly. But this is Belmo we are talking about. Belmo just happened to show his human side yesterday as the worst possible time. Congrats to Simonson for making the gutsy call to switch to the Reality when he did.
Same. Belmonte (or Belmonte plus a whole pack of SPI ball reps) made a tactical error on the Wolverine. I'm not surprised, necessarily, that Belmonte would go to that ball; if you saw him interviewed on the Beef & Barnzy podcast prior to the start of the season, you found out that Belmonte probably doesn't have as much working knowledge of the SPI product line as you would expect. He talked about how difficult it is to get equipment shipped to Australia and basically his strategy for equipment was to find a few pieces he knows he'll always like, and then trust ball reps to fill in the gaps. On top of that, at the Players the week, he apparently used only a very few balls, with the Wolverine being used most of them all. I'm sure that's where his comfort came from.
The problem there is that the TV pair for 2+ years now has been incredibly squirrelly at the breakpoint. There seems to be a point around the second or third match where they turn to cake, but then the bowlers lose their looks again. It seems that everyone who has won has done so by prioritizing the management of friction at the breakpoint above everything else.
So what does Belmo do? He pulls out one of the most skid-snappy balls in the catalog and tries to make it work on the TV pair.
Simonsen's move to the Reality was where everything turned. There have been a lot of big, strong cores/covers used to great success the last couple of years with the caveat of having the surfaces changed. It seems to be either that, or urethane.
Recall that Dombrowski opened up his regional Players semi by trying to throw a Tropical Surge and it went 60 feet straight out of the back of the machine. He's the only guy this year that showed any success with what I'd consider a "weaker" ball, and even that was a solid (Electrify).
To be honest, the second-best look to Simonsen on TV (certainly with resin) this week was not really Belmo, but was probably Peters, but he was spraying it too much to advance.
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Have to admit I was shocked at what Belmo did regarding the ball change and not sure what he saw that made him think he needed to change balls. Think this was a case of over-analyzing instead of coming to the realization he didnt need to shoot 250 considering the pattern they were on. He just got done shooting 470 for two and decided to change. After shooting 470 for the first two, all it would have taken to win major #15 is 181 and 166 those final two games. On top of the fact the pattern is very flat; he used urethane which means there had to be some carry down near the breakpoint. Right??? So wouldnt you think a big skid/flip ball would be the last thing you would go to? Obviously sitting on a couch and watching is easier than being in the moment and having to make decisions on the fly. But this is Belmo we are talking about. Belmo just happened to show his human side yesterday as the worst possible time. Congrats to Simonson for making the gutsy call to switch to the Reality when he did.
Same. Belmonte (or Belmonte plus a whole pack of SPI ball reps) made a tactical error on the Wolverine. I'm not surprised, necessarily, that Belmonte would go to that ball; if you saw him interviewed on the Beef & Barnzy podcast prior to the start of the season, you found out that Belmonte probably doesn't have as much working knowledge of the SPI product line as you would expect. He talked about how difficult it is to get equipment shipped to Australia and basically his strategy for equipment was to find a few pieces he knows he'll always like, and then trust ball reps to fill in the gaps. On top of that, at the Players the week, he apparently used only a very few balls, with the Wolverine being used most of them all. I'm sure that's where his comfort came from.
The problem there is that the TV pair for 2+ years now has been incredibly squirrelly at the breakpoint. There seems to be a point around the second or third match where they turn to cake, but then the bowlers lose their looks again. It seems that everyone who has won has done so by prioritizing the management of friction at the breakpoint above everything else.
So what does Belmo do? He pulls out one of the most skid-snappy balls in the catalog and tries to make it work on the TV pair.
Simonsen's move to the Reality was where everything turned. There have been a lot of big, strong cores/covers used to great success the last couple of years with the caveat of having the surfaces changed. It seems to be either that, or urethane.
Recall that Dombrowski opened up his regional Players semi by trying to throw a Tropical Surge and it went 60 feet straight out of the back of the machine. He's the only guy this year that showed any success with what I'd consider a "weaker" ball, and even that was a solid (Electrify).
To be honest, the second-best look to Simonsen on TV (certainly with resin) this week was not really Belmo, but was probably Peters, but he was spraying it too much to advance.
Interestingly enough, in his listed arsenal; he had a Trend 2 which would have been a better choice in hindsight but also knows exactly what that ball does for obvious reasons. But even still. What did he see that we apparently didnt that after shooting 470 for two games made him feel he needed to change balls?
The lanes getting squirrely is a direct result of the heavier use of urethane. Whereas only a select few were using it 5 years ago (Butturff, Svensson), the amount of use over the past 3 years between the Pitch Black and Purple Hammer; just about everyone on Tour has one now, including Rash (UC3).
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The only reason I could think of for the ball change is he had a 220 look with urethane by the end of game 2 and he might have thought that wouldn't be enough to beat Simonsen. He had the pocket with the pitch black but as he was moving deeper with it I assume he knew there would be a lot of 10 pins coming his way.
Obviously in hindsight he should have stuck with urethane and based on the scores the last 2 games I don't see any way Belmo would have lost.
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There is a lot of ifs, well what if those who choked hadn't choked would he have made it as far probably not, but Antony did not choke he stepped up in the tenth executed with a ball he had thrown only 1 frame with and put the pressure on Belmo and won. There is a whole lot of talk on Belmo in this thread but the credit needs to be given to Anthony for a great ball change as well as great execution in the 10th frame.
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There is a lot of ifs, well what if those who choked hadn't choked would he have made it as far probably not, but Antony did not choke he stepped up in the tenth executed with a ball he had thrown only 1 frame with and put the pressure on Belmo and won. There is a whole lot of talk on Belmo in this thread but the credit needs to be given to Anthony for a great ball change as well as great execution in the 10th frame.
Or credit should be given to Anthony's ball reps for advising him on which ball to change to. Yes, he had the gumption to change but I don't think he can take full credit for it.
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It would be nice if Anthony or Belmo had been asked what they saw and what gave them trouble with the way the pattern broke down. Belmo has been known to loft the gutter cap to avoid the problems in the front part of the lane or reduce hook. Anthony can pretty much do it all and some. Yet they both struggled. I would liked to have seen Norm Duke in the finals. Bet he would have stayed far right and shot higher than 180.
At any rate, Peterson at one point in an earlier match said Belmo was smelling blood and took advantage of it. He gave no credit to Anthony needing to throw three, stepping up and throwing three and putting pressure on Belmo. That is a sign of greatness. And he said nothing about how Belmo failed to handle the pressure.
Btw, ball reps are overrated. The pressure is on the bowler to go up and make the shot. He gets the credit if he performs, and surely can't blame it on equipment failure of the ball rep if he chokes in the clutch. Yea, Belmo would have struck if the ball rep had given him the right ball. I don't think so.
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I'm not the biggest Simonsen fan, but he's an incredibly diverse, talented bowler, and he deserves credit for the decision making and shot making that won him another major title.
Now, as for Belmo, I'm sorry, but I don't see what happened to him as a choke in any way, shape, or form. For me, a choke is when you have a great look, but you mess it up because you're too amped up/nervous about the peripheral stuff. That wasn't the case with Belmo at all. He made a bad ball change, and he couldn't out-bowl it when he needed to most. I would have only looked at it as a choke had he aced the last 3-4 shots only to throw it out the window when he needed it most.
We have to remember that these guys, Belmo in particular, are the very best in the world. With that in mind, they honestly believe they can pull off whatever shot they need whenever they need it, and they feel that way because many of them have proven the ability to do it time and time again.
Think back to PDW's "Who do you think you are? I am!" moment. That was one of the greatest shots in the history of bowling when you consider what was riding on it. Even if I had Pete's look, I probably wouldn't have pulled that shot off because my mind would've drifted to the title, the money, the people watching, etc. THAT would be a choke.
I think Belmo picked the wrong ball because he didn't expect to be able to grind out a low 200 game win over a guy like Simonsen. He realized his choice was bad, but he felt like he could still make the shot he needed to win as long as he aced it. This time, he didn't ace it. That doesn't mean that he choked. It just means that nobody comes through every single time. Michael Jordan missed a lot of potential game-winners. What made him great was that he was just as confident he'd make the next one, and he often did. I think that Belmo will be just fine the next time he's up with a chance to win.
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For the last couple of games, none of the bowlers had a good look. For sure, Anthony did not have a good look going into the tenth frame. His max score was 180 and he opened in the 9th. He got up and executed. Belmo got up and did not execute.
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For the last couple of games, none of the bowlers had a good look. For sure, Anthony did not have a good look going into the tenth frame. His max score was 180 and he opened in the 9th. He got up and executed. Belmo got up and did not execute.
That's 100% accurate. I'm just saying that failing to execute doesn't automatically = a choke in my book. I know people have their own opinions on that, but, for me, it's only a choke if you fail to come through because the moment was too big for you. The moment wasn't too big for Belmo. He just didn't make the shot he needed. Simonsen did, so congrats to him on getting it done.
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For the last couple of games, none of the bowlers had a good look. For sure, Anthony did not have a good look going into the tenth frame. His max score was 180 and he opened in the 9th. He got up and executed. Belmo got up and did not execute.
That's 100% accurate. I'm just saying that failing to execute doesn't automatically = a choke in my book. I know people have their own opinions on that, but, for me, it's only a choke if you fail to come through because the moment was too big for you. The moment wasn't too big for Belmo. He just didn't make the shot he needed. Simonsen did, so congrats to him on getting it done.
Ok. You drunk some of the KOOLAIDE too!!! Sweet isn’t it?
That day fir that shot the moment was too big for him. He almost 😱.
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Belmonte "choked" because he lost the correct line/ball for the pattern in the final round?
Please...
I guess that means everyone here who has never won a US Open are just choking losers then. And no, I'm not a Belmo fanboy.
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Belmonte "choked" because he lost the correct line/ball for the pattern in the final round?
Please...
I guess that means everyone here who has never won a US Open are just choking losers then. And no, I'm not a Belmo fanboy.
The big difference here is this the most of us are not professionals Belmo is and one would think that if a ball isn't working then you change balls or lines or whatever it is that you do. Someone else several post ago said that he listened to a show that Belmo was on and that he really didn't know the equipment that well.
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Belmonte "choked" because he lost the correct line/ball for the pattern in the final round?
Please...
I guess that means everyone here who has never won a US Open are just choking losers then. And no, I'm not a Belmo fanboy.
The big difference here is this the most of us are not professionals Belmo is and one would think that if a ball isn't working then you change balls or lines or whatever it is that you do. Someone else several post ago said that he listened to a show that Belmo was on and that he really didn't know the equipment that well.
Just because someone is a professional doesn't mean they're always going to make the right choice or be 100% all the time.
With the score fest of the Storm Cup right now and Belmonte struggling, I think something with his timing and targeting is a little off right now. Of course as I say that, he's gone 1,024 his last 4 games
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Belmonte "choked" because he lost the correct line/ball for the pattern in the final round?
Please...
I guess that means everyone here who has never won a US Open are just choking losers then. And no, I'm not a Belmo fanboy.
The big difference here is this the most of us are not professionals Belmo is and one would think that if a ball isn't working then you change balls or lines or whatever it is that you do. Someone else several post ago said that he listened to a show that Belmo was on and that he really didn't know the equipment that well.
How is that choking? If I understood correctly, he has pretty much been out of bowling recently. Dude having a bad game is not the same as choking.
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Yeah, somehow this thread turned from an analysis of a (bad) choice Belmonte made in regards to equipment, and turned into a discussion of choking. I suspect that's because some people just want to look for any little thing they can to justify the hot take.
If that's the case, then literally any bad choice, bad playcall, mistake, swing of a golf club that isn't 100 percent on-point, etc., is considered "choking." Therefore, there is no winning and losing anymore, it's winning and choking.
Furthermore, I find it funny that a bunch of amateurs are sitting around on a message board calling anyone a "choker." If that's the case, we're 100x the bigger "chokers" because we never made it out on tour.
Laughable. Not to mention hypocritical to the point of being narcissistic.
Also, it doesn't take anything away from Simonsen's win to point out the mistakes the loser made.
One last thing:
It would be nice if Anthony or Belmo had been asked what they saw and what gave them trouble with the way the pattern broke down.
They did ask Simonsen about it, somewhat. He mentioned there was a "problem pair" during the week that he had switched to a strong ball to combat, and it worked then and that's sort of what inspired the move on the TV pair. I watched a lot of the vlogs from qualifying during the week and it seemed like during the week, Belmonte's move was to go weaker and go around, whereas Simonsen went strong and used cover strength to blend the reaction. His choice ended up being the better one.
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For the last couple of games, none of the bowlers had a good look. For sure, Anthony did not have a good look going into the tenth frame. His max score was 180 and he opened in the 9th. He got up and executed. Belmo got up and did not execute.
That's 100% accurate. I'm just saying that failing to execute doesn't automatically = a choke in my book. I know people have their own opinions on that, but, for me, it's only a choke if you fail to come through because the moment was too big for you. The moment wasn't too big for Belmo. He just didn't make the shot he needed. Simonsen did, so congrats to him on getting it done.
Ok. You drunk some of the KOOLAIDE too!!! Sweet isn’t it?
That day fir that shot the moment was too big for him. He almost 😱.
You are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else, but I disagree. As others have stated, based on what you're saying, I guess any time you don't win, it's a choke. That's not the way I look at it, and I'm entitled to that opinion just as you are entitled to yours.
I'm not sure what the silly "drinking the Kool-aid" comment is all about. I'm not a fanboy of any Tour players, Belmo or otherwise. I don't dislike Belmo, but I don't revere him (or anyone else) the way that the OP alleged Randy does. Is he a good player? Obviously, but the Tour is full of amazing players. You seem to have a narrative that you want to stick to. Be my guest.
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People also need to realize Belmo is almost to bowling what Tiger is to Golf. You cant seem to turn on the Golf Channel and not hear Tiger's name is some fashion even when he isnt playing. Yet, how many of us make sure to sit down on a Saturday and Sunday and turn on the PGA Tour when Tiger is in contention; especially during a major? Belmo is doing things nobody has ever done, at least when it comes to majors. Over half his 26 wins are majors and makes the TV show at more than a 50% clip. Thats just nuts. To tell you the truth, I am not sure why the hatred towards Belmo.
The PBA is no different than any other professional sport. The NBA pushes LeBron and sometimes Curry if he gets on one of his rolls. MLB was all about Shohei last year and for good reason. The only difference with MLB is that if not for Shohei; it wouldnt be about one specific face of the league but a group of generational talent that has hit all at the same time (Acuna, Soto, Tatis, and Guerrero). So does that mean that the ones that hate on Belmo also hate everyone else I just mentioned for the same reasons?
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People also need to realize Belmo is almost to bowling what Tiger is to Golf. You cant seem to turn on the Golf Channel and not hear Tiger's name is some fashion even when he isnt playing. Yet, how many of us make sure to sit down on a Saturday and Sunday and turn on the PGA Tour when Tiger is in contention; especially during a major? Belmo is doing things nobody has ever done, at least when it comes to majors. Over half his 26 wins are majors and makes the TV show at more than a 50% clip. Thats just nuts. To tell you the truth, I am not sure why the hatred towards Belmo.
The PBA is no different than any other professional sport. The NBA pushes LeBron and sometimes Curry if he gets on one of his rolls. MLB was all about Shohei last year and for good reason. The only difference with MLB is that if not for Shohei; it wouldnt be about one specific face of the league but a group of generational talent that has hit all at the same time (Acuna, Soto, Tatis, and Guerrero). So does that mean that the ones that hate on Belmo also hate everyone else I just mentioned for the same reasons?
I'm not seeing a hatred for Belmo in this thread. Just people(me included) are tired of the gushing, effusive praise Randy Pederson spews constantly when Belmo is bowling.
Pederson does the same thing when Troop is bowling.
Just an FYI, I'm also sick of hearing how f-ing great Tom Brady is during every NFL broadcast, even when Brady's team isn't even playing.
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Yeah, the stars always get that annoying treatment. The first time I noticed that was John Elway. Just look at that arm! (Um, Jim, they're behind 24 points). Michael Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Brady, Bonds, Tiger,... They could be puking up last night's sushi, but by God they'd be the best ever at it!
Sure, Randy is a Storm guy so he gushes about them most, but who's been winning the most? Belmo, Troup, and Simonson. He goes on pretty strong about Tacket too, but he just hasn't been on a ton lately and when he has he hasn't performed at his best or has had lousy pin carry.
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People also need to realize Belmo is almost to bowling what Tiger is to Golf. You cant seem to turn on the Golf Channel and not hear Tiger's name is some fashion even when he isnt playing. Yet, how many of us make sure to sit down on a Saturday and Sunday and turn on the PGA Tour when Tiger is in contention; especially during a major? Belmo is doing things nobody has ever done, at least when it comes to majors. Over half his 26 wins are majors and makes the TV show at more than a 50% clip. Thats just nuts. To tell you the truth, I am not sure why the hatred towards Belmo.
The PBA is no different than any other professional sport. The NBA pushes LeBron and sometimes Curry if he gets on one of his rolls. MLB was all about Shohei last year and for good reason. The only difference with MLB is that if not for Shohei; it wouldnt be about one specific face of the league but a group of generational talent that has hit all at the same time (Acuna, Soto, Tatis, and Guerrero). So does that mean that the ones that hate on Belmo also hate everyone else I just mentioned for the same reasons?
I'm not seeing a hatred for Belmo in this thread. Just people(me included) are tired of the gushing, effusive praise Randy Pederson spews constantly when Belmo is bowling.
Pederson does the same thing when Troop is bowling.
Just an FYI, I'm also sick of hearing how f-ing great Tom Brady is during every NFL broadcast, even when Brady's team isn't even playing.
I definitely understand how some people have Belmo fatigue because I get the same way having to ALWAYS hear about/watch Yankees - Red Sox or Cowboys and any other NFC East doormat. It feels like the stations go out of their way to make sure those teams are on TV as much as possible.
Obviously, it makes sense as they are simply catering to their biggest markets in order to drive viewership numbers up. Bowling is a bit different because the stations have zero control over who makes various PBA shows (though there have been some great stories through the years about how the PBA purposefully manipulated lane conditions in an attempt to get someone to the show or to keep certain people off). As such, they simply have to find ways of garnering interest no matter which bowlers make each show.
I do think that there is some Belmo hate from the 2-handed bowling is wrong/should be outlawed crowd, but that's a different matter. Again, I get why/how some people may just be sick and tired of seeing/hearing about him. I get that way with certain people too.
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People also need to realize Belmo is almost to bowling what Tiger is to Golf. You cant seem to turn on the Golf Channel and not hear Tiger's name is some fashion even when he isnt playing. Yet, how many of us make sure to sit down on a Saturday and Sunday and turn on the PGA Tour when Tiger is in contention; especially during a major? Belmo is doing things nobody has ever done, at least when it comes to majors. Over half his 26 wins are majors and makes the TV show at more than a 50% clip. Thats just nuts. To tell you the truth, I am not sure why the hatred towards Belmo.
The PBA is no different than any other professional sport. The NBA pushes LeBron and sometimes Curry if he gets on one of his rolls. MLB was all about Shohei last year and for good reason. The only difference with MLB is that if not for Shohei; it wouldnt be about one specific face of the league but a group of generational talent that has hit all at the same time (Acuna, Soto, Tatis, and Guerrero). So does that mean that the ones that hate on Belmo also hate everyone else I just mentioned for the same reasons?
Because Belmo, like Pete, is not Dick Weber?
Seriously, we have the purists who believe one set of ideals and standards from a given era clashing with those from a second era, clashing with those from now. It's the same generational gap argument we've seen from 1950s rock and rockabilly, to 70s classic rock to 80s metal to pop now. In this case, the flack Belmo cops isn't from how different he is from the idols we've had in Weber, Holman, Roth, Voss, Aulby, Berardi, etc.; no, it is from being good at being different, and good while being different from those idols. That's what some people can't tolerate, on top of the fact that he is still getting the results while being different.
Randy gushes on about the results, because that's what Belmo's fans want to hear and see. I don't think we've seen anything like that from the Durbin commentary era, let alone Schenkel and Burton. While they were in the announcer's booth, they were more unbiased than anything.. One can't say that much nowadays, and it doesn't help that they are all contracted to the same ball company, either...
as far as telecast after telecast, I haven't watched any of the PBA over the past few years so I can't say... but I can see where people can get tired of that in general.
BL.