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Definition of a sandbagger
« on: February 06, 2009, 02:23:33 AM »

 

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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 10:27:38 AM »
Look at his league averages and achievements.  Pretty much a classic example of a true sandbagger for tourny basis.

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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 10:42:45 AM »
He probably shoots big in a few leagues to clean up in pots, then drops the league before he gets in 21 games so he doesn't have to use the big average in handicap tournaments.  Yep, pretty much the definition of a bagger.
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 10:45:31 AM »
For the most part he carries a 190ish avg at one center where it would appear he bowls in a fulltime league, and then bowls really well at another center where he subs.  I think you might be a little over the top.  It is possible that the shot is easier where he subs.

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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 10:46:36 AM »
Would not want to bowl against him in the Moose league on league playoff night!


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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 11:04:56 AM »
I know who he is, he has cashed big in many tournys.  I would say he is a legit 225-230 bowler.

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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2009, 11:05:29 AM »
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He probably shoots big in a few leagues to clean up in pots, then drops the league before he gets in 21 games so he doesn't have to use the big average in handicap tournaments.  Yep, pretty much the definition of a bagger.
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Doubt he would be doing that in the same 4 leagues every year and keep getting asked back. It is obivious he subs in these leagues everyyear and bowls 1 full time. I quess the sandbagging conspiracy theorist want to have subbing banned unless a bowler is guaranteed 21 games. Some people can't afford to bowl every night and sub whenever they can. Now if you can show me all the money he rakes in from all the tournaments he enters, I might agree with you, although true sandbagging is generally not detectable.
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 11:18:23 AM »
He could have also subbed in these leagues too.
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2009, 11:44:48 AM »
Sometimes people tend to think I sandbag.  I had a 212 average in the 2005-2006 season, dropped to 206 the next.  My book average for last season is 187.  I actually bowled that.  Had a terrible season.  Stopped practicing etc.....It's nice to get a few pins handicap as i work through my game to get it back up above 200...Got 2 months to do it.:0)
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2009, 11:55:54 AM »
I like how he has 20 games twice.  What are the odds of that happening?
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2009, 12:09:03 PM »
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Yeah a couple of times he got to 18 games but he made sure he didn't go over 21 in any of the those leagues.  sounds like an experienced bagger to me.
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Some people aren't general subs but on rosters of specfic teams. How many games one gets to bowl is determined by who happens to not be able to bowl during the season and not by the sub. I subbed for 1 specfic team for 3 years and never was able to get more than 15 games in any one year.
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2009, 12:25:55 PM »
What are you smoking Gazoo.  No wonder you can float around without any strings!

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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2009, 12:33:10 PM »
He is a sandbagger.  I have subbed on teams before, heck I subbed on a team and had 18 games towards the end of the season.  The team captain asked me if I wanted to bowl 1 more week so I could establish an average.(21 games) I said sure.

20 games then stop?  He knew what he was doing. Sorry sandbagger.

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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2009, 12:34:46 PM »
if you notice how he bowls his lowest average in his main league...and then look at the the other leagues he bowls in.if you notice some of those averages are in the same house his main league is in and he's averaging over 200+ in some of those other leagues.so how can you average over 200+ plus in the same house for 5-15 games then only average 185-190 in your main league?????looks like a sandbagger to me.
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Re: Definition of a sandbagger
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2009, 12:40:55 PM »
More evidence than the OJ trial.  Guilty move along