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nospareball

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Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« on: January 19, 2009, 05:59:36 AM »
The topic of dry lanes seems to come up a lot, especially lately since a lot of houses are cutting back on oil.  The house I currently bowl in can probably be considered on the lighter side of medium, especially if you play the outside, or up the track.  Most guys with any sort of hand will play the puddle in the middle, but there are some that scream and yell every week that the lanes are dry.  One guy in particular resorts to playing up the track with plastic, and scores pretty well, but man does he b*tch about it.  From what I can tell, he'd be better off moving inside, and putting a little belly on the ball bouncing off the dry instead of playing up the dry.  I'm not sure if he can't or doesn't want to.

I thought he was crazy until last week, when I too was forced to pull out my plastic in the 3rd game and play up the track.  The puddle in the middle had dried up and I was forced much deeper than I'm comfortable playing.  

It got me thinking, do we complain of dry lanes because we can't play them correctly, or do some people actually see legitimate dry lanes in league play?  What would be your definition of dry?  Do dry lane reactive balls really work on shots like these?

On a side note, I have played on un-oiled lanes, and it was a lesson in futility.  Conventionally drilled plastic house balls hit the lane and hooked immediately.  I don't think anyone is talking about lanes that dry, they were unplayable unless you used one of those ramps.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2009, 02:21:30 PM »
Three comments about what people term dry lanes. Dry where?  Head, mid lane or back end?

First, I've seen many times where there is oil across the lane but the backends are squeaky clean and are flying and the uninformed player says they are dry.  

Second, nospareball your comment here  
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The puddle in the middle had dried up and I was forced much deeper than I'm comfortable playing.  
 To me that is a big factor/issue where most will not get deep enough to catch head oil as they are out of their comfort zone.

Third using non-hooking stuff that will not hit hard enough on the backend when playing a deep inside line.  You every rarely see good players cut back to the point of using non-hooking equipment even when playing deep.  They tend to lessen their rev rate, change their hand position....get deeper and use semi-strong equipment.  This is where the THB player gets in trouble on what most term dry lanes.  When a ball loses energy it will hit like crap.  Must store energy.    


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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2009, 02:30:19 PM »
I consider dry/scortched lanes as those lanes with absolutely eaten up heads, where your ball wants to check up before or as it reaches the arrows, it then hooks in the midlane, and your backends are flying, so it never sees the headpin, just takes out the 4-7-8!

But the dry that I usually see these days are eaten up heads, so you have to go to lofting the ball very lite midlane oil so you do get a little skid, and then you get the flying backends!

It is still difficult to manage because you usually eat up all the midlane oil by the end of the first game, have to move deeper, and adjust your release to a weaker one because of all the angle you are getting from the flying backends. If you don't weaken your release, you don't carry the corners. And your speed better be dead on.

However, contrary to my counterparts, I don't complain because I know that navigating tough conditions just makes me a better bowler!
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2009, 03:18:33 PM »
Ive stood on like 12 and bounced an XXXL off the 2 board at my house, going dead flush.

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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 03:20:17 PM »
A buddy of mine two weeks ago was 20 to 5 with his Big Blue Spare, they were toast that night.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 03:21:38 PM »
For me it's when the ball pukes in the heads, then you switch to a longer, shiny, pearl ball and it pukes in the midlane. Then you throw plastic and it carries like plastic.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 03:23:54 PM »
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Walked in the local lanes a while back... white dot was in the channel before the end of the guardian heads. Scorched
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 04:07:49 PM »
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Walked in the local lanes a while back... white dot was in the channel before the end of the guardian heads. Scorched
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I know,I ran into that too.the wood lanes were finished in 25 grit and last oiled back in 1968.

in general "dry" means the heads and mids are toast and you have no option except for plastic.most of the time the heads go and the oil pushes down to the mids from everyone useing aggressive equipment.if the backends are dry then I call them hooking not dry.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 04:21:48 PM »
When I cant find a ball that stays on the right side without going to plastic.

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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 04:38:06 PM »
My definition is:
Dry lane is when oil depletion in the heads is produced by the oilmachine instead bowlingballs.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 08:04:41 PM »
i hear guys on league night complain from the start about how dry the lanes are and yet when their spare ball goes over the 4th arrow to shoot the 10 pin there's oil all over the ball. my definition of dry lanes are when i have to play left of the 4th arrow for my strike ball.

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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 10:12:19 PM »
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To me that is a big factor/issue where most will not get deep enough to catch head oil as they are out of their comfort zone.

Third using non-hooking stuff that will not hit hard enough on the backend when playing a deep inside line.  You every rarely see good players cut back to the point of using non-hooking equipment even when playing deep.  They tend to lessen their rev rate, change their hand position....get deeper and use semi-strong equipment.  This is where the THB player gets in trouble on what most term dry lanes.  When a ball loses energy it will hit like crap.  Must store energy.



Yup, the lanes were at a point where I would call them dry, but they didn't start out that way.  There were still guys finding some oil in the middle, but they were way left of where I can play.

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i hear guys on league night complain from the start about how dry the lanes are and yet when their spare ball goes over the 4th arrow to shoot the 10 pin there's oil all over the ball. my definition of dry lanes are when i have to play left of the 4th arrow for my strike ball.


That's pretty much where I draw the line.  I can play deeper than 4th, but I can't carry anything from there, and my margin of error is slim.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 10:20:49 PM »
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    quote:i hear guys on league night complain from the start about how dry the lanes are and yet when their spare ball goes over the 4th arrow to shoot the 10 pin there's oil all over the ball. my definition of dry lanes are when i have to play left of the 4th arrow for my strike ball.

That's pretty much where I draw the line. I can play deeper than 4th, but I can't carry anything from there, and my margin of error is slim.


What ball do you use when you have no margin for error.  What are you stats.?
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 10:38:09 PM »
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What ball do you use when you have no margin for error.  What are you stats.?
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Rapid Fire or T-Road Pearl
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very little tilt, and probably 60 degrees rotation

Margin for error is probably bad wording,  high risk/small reward is probably a better explanation.  A missed shot on that condition usually resulted in a nasty split for me, and my angle was too steep leaving a lot of back row nastiness.  With plastic I knew I could at least stay in the pocket and pick my spares.

And yes a weaker ball is probably the answer, but it would have to be one that didn't snap off the dry.
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Re: Definition of Dry/Scorched lanes?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 10:44:56 PM »
Have you tried a John Jowdy drag release?  Seriously releases and variance thereof can give you completely different reactions.  I have three different releases I use as I move into the lane.

Check out this --->  http://books.google.com/books?id=2O5KWoE5baMC&pg=PA148&lpg=PA148&dq=John+Jowdy+drag+release&source=bl&ots=84Cm7mgtw3&sig=P2TQgCEiAIcsAZXnL5fN2EIz2oE&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

That's basically what I use with stronger equipment as I move inside on scorched heads.  It takes tons of time and practice to perfect.
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