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9andaWiggle

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How long have you been where you're at?
« on: January 27, 2005, 10:06:37 AM »
Meaning, how long have you been within 5 pins of what you currently average?  Myself, I have been between 190-195 since 1993.  Granted, I took a little absence from regular league bowling between 1995 through 1998.  However, when you found you had reached a "plateau", what did you do to get over the hump and move to the next level?

I've been where I'm at for so long, I don't know what to do.  I mean, at 194 (where I'm at currently) I could easily say all I need is one more strike per game... or a couple more spares per night... but how do I make it happen?  What worked for you to get to that next level?
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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2005, 06:37:34 PM »
Plateauing is a real phenomenon. From my experiences, I believe that there is basically two independant sides to bowling, physical and mental. Each side has many independant charateristics and a few of them are shared. But I have found that plateauing happens when one side is of less skill then the other. For example, a bowler might be able to physically repeat a specific skill but not realize it is time to use it. Therefor the physical aspect is good but the mental aspect is not up to par and holding the bowler back. This might seem an over simplistic statement but so much of bowling is "between the ears" and not always are the answers difficult.

Let me give you an example from my history. From age 18-21 I averaged about 210-215. I could "hit it" with the best of them and would pound away at the pocket 9 solid hits per game but could only manage to average that (1978-1981). I plateaued... and I was dissappointed. Then I ran across a guy who showed me something incredible... that I could did not have to "hit it" as much and using finese I could do better. Suddenly I could hit the pocket nearly every frame but my strike precentage went up and suddenly I was averaging 220's. So what was my plateau... was it physical or was it mental? It was mental because I was only interested in doing it "my" way and it was holding me back. As soon as I undestood there was a whole other side to bowling I improved.. because I had a whole lot to learn and in a couple years I was averaging high 220 and low 230's until the late 80's when I quit for 10 years. So improving my mental side opened up a whole avenue of new physical skills to master and implement.

What causes a person to plateau is the inability of a person to allow himself to improve by restricting his ability to "see" potential in all aspects in his game. This person who taught me this was a competitor that beat me in public match infront of all my friends and bowling buddies in a day when bowling matches was everything and in a time when I thought I was untouchable. And this person today still does not know how much he taught me. You can learn and open your mind from everyone one around if you look. Learning never stops, its is unlimited.




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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2005, 06:51:38 PM »
Secondly and "thinking outside the box" ... an average is simply that. If tomorow you woke up and simply "believed" you were 10 pins better than you are today, and expected to be 10 pins better than you are.. in earnest.. I beleive many bowlers would be. That is because bowlers tend to limit themselves in general.. They doubt themselves... they question themselves.

Instead, bowling should be about simply bowling each shot the best they can, read each reaction the best they can, make adjustements the best they can. And what ever score is awarded at the end ignor it. Then at the end of the night/season many bowlers would see a significant improvement becuase they got the emotional side of the mental game out of the way and allowed the physical side to dominate. At the top, those bowlers could care less what score they shot...its about execution...becuase that is all a bowler can do, execute. This game is built on some luck which nobody can control.

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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2005, 06:44:42 AM »
I have executed at my current level for about the last 15 years. My average has moved up and down over those years within a 10 pin range but my execution remained pretty constant.

This year so far my average is 10 pins higher than I have ever booked before but it is more about easier conditions and matching up perfectly at a new house than it is about bowling better.

While I believe virtually everyone has more potential but there becomes a limit for what you can, do, and are willing to put into the game.

There are certain physical limitations individuals have that limit how far they can go. Flexibility, hand eye co-ordination, body structure, injuries, and other factors can limit how far you can go with your physical game.

But at the higher level mental constraints are the bigger players.

Financial, family time constraints, access to coaching, etc can limit arsenal and practice time that make it tough to get over the next hurdle.  



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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2005, 07:13:21 AM »
I was at the same level for 3 three years.  I changed my approach, delivery, number of steps in my approach (this is all the result of lessons).  My average didn't go up, but it didn't go down either.  I consider that a minor victory.

This year, however, my average is up almost 20 pins.  The difference?  This year my goal was to pick up one more spare per game, on average.  Sure enough, this year I'm picking up my spares a lot better than I ever have; and the only thing I changed was my intensity level.  Now, no matter what I'm shooting, (baby split, single pins, 5 pin, corner pins, 8, 9, etc., it doesn't matter) I try to focus and execute my spare shot with the same intensity that I use to execute my strike shot.  The results speak for themselves.  I used to have a couple opens per game, now I only have a couple opens per set.  I'm closing in on the Most Improved Bowler in my league.  And the only thing I changed was my focus and intensity level by making every spare shot a strike shot.  It may not work for everyone, but it sure worked for me.

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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2005, 09:54:32 AM »
I'm at 195 - 200 and have been for 2 years now.  Before that I was around 205-210, and I haven't a clue where the extra double went.  I know more now, I feel that I'm throwing the ball better now, but scores are down.  Of course since we got someone who actually knows about lane dressing it's a bit tougher shot, so maybe that has something to do with it.  I've always wondered what might happen if I actually ever practiced, or, for that matter, bowled more than 3 games a week.
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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2005, 12:09:16 PM »
The last 5 yrs have netted the same results but have kept rising in small gains. 205-217 across 2-3 houses but this year 216 and 224 before leaving the leagues. Working with a qualified coach last summer to help with the small things that i didn't realize was the biggest gainer. Learning ball needs such as energy management through both surface care and drill patterns (flare needs) has been great for reading patterns and consistency. I will be giving it up for some time due to family constraints but I will not give it all up till I can touch 230-235 range which i believe to be very attainable. If shots turned tough hitting about 210-215 on PBA patterns (all of them) would mean hitting my goal. For lower average guys hitting the pocket one more time a game and converting one extra spare a game probably would be the quickest gain. (learning to leave more attainable spares)

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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2005, 12:04:40 PM »
I have been at the same average level about 15 years, from short oil days to present. Have been a "scratch" bowler about 25 yrs. I'm a low track tweener in every respect, ball speed, revs, etc. Very solid, uncomplicated game. I think at least 90% of my bowling is mental. When my concentration is really "on", I can compete with, and beat anyone, regardless of how I feel physically. Have a number of tournament titles, big scores (locally, regionally, at Nationals and Team Challenges), won some real $ over the years. This happens about 30% of the time. About 60% of the time my concentration is average, I bowl around my average (220) give or take 20 pins, still one of the better bowlers but nothing special. About 10% I stink. Work pressures, wife's a crab, tired and can't get any adrenaline going, bills to pay, etc. The brain is an amazing thing.

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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2005, 12:16:36 PM »
9,

what expectations do you have? do you think you should be 210 instead of 195?

do you seek out top coaches? do you put in 50 games a week on practice. and I mean practice not scoring watching? do you play 3 to 5 games a week just shooting 7 and 10's?

you may be at a place where you are supposed to be for the effort you put in. you may be maxed out.


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Re: How long have you been where you're at?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2005, 12:17:56 PM »
Thanks for the input guys.  And Pin-Chaser, I think you've hit on at least one of my problems.  So far this year I've been trying to break myself of "hitting up" on the ball (learned in the urethane days) and am trying to adapt to the idea of letting today's equipment do the work for me.  However, this is only a small part of what needs done.  My mental game is no good.  I mean, I can concentrate and block out noise/motion around me so that does not distract me from my shot.  My problem lies in getting frustrated with myself when I feel my performance is sub-par.  Once I get upset, it's hard to get back on track - although I am getting better than I used to be.  Anybody know of any good mental coaches for this game?

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