Author Topic: 2 handers (Read 3022 times)

echidapus · « **on:** March 29, 2009, 11:13:52 AM »

Now that the big aussie won there is more talk about 2 handed bowling. What I keep reading is that it takes a toll on the body.

Question: how?

biomechanically how does it take it's toll? I believe it actually makes bowling more of a sport. You have to have strength, flexibility and stability throughout. There is much greater athleticism throwing 2 handed than 1 handed.

btw I am a 1 handed bowler converting to 2 hands for fun this summer

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Krakken · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:55:51 AM »

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Strictly on the subject of bowling's athletic component, it is considered enough of an isometric exercise that I've known doctors to actually prescribe it as an exercise regimen.

As to the impact of two-handed bowling, I'd like to see someone freeze-frame Belmonte's pose just as he begins his follow-through. I don't see any more pronounced tilt there than I see in a golfer when he's at the highest point of his backswing, especially if the golfer is using some variant of the stack-and-tilt.

As to the weight-carrying aspect, he's essentially carrying 8 pounds per hand. I personally think he'll be fine as long as he stays in shape.

The knees are what eventually get most of us, and that's a consideration either in the one- or two-handed style.

Jess

Edited on 3/29/2009 9:32 PM

And I know Orthepedic Surgeons and Chiropractors that will tell you that bowling is one of the worst things you can do for your hips and back. It is all one sided. You put more strain on the side of your body that you bowl with. Yes even Belmo, he is 2 handed, but his right hand is his strong side.

Oh and bowlerdog, thanks for letting me have my opinion. Even though when you look at it, he is definitely not smooth. Norm Duke is smooth, Chris Barnes is smooth, Wes Malott is smooth. Belmonte is herky-jerky at best.

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echidapus · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2009, 02:00:59 PM »

Belmonte is smooth, it's a skip step that 2 handers have that 1 handers don't have that make him look herky jerky.

If you are a 1 hander, don't try the skip step. OUCH!!!!!

Krakken · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:10:28 PM »

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Belmonte is smooth, it's a skip step that 2 handers have that 1 handers don't have that make him look herky jerky.

If you are a 1 hander, don't try the skip step. OUCH!!!!!

If you have a skip step how can it be smooth? Smooth to me is fluid motion from the start of the approach through release. 2 handers don't have that. The skip step is herky-jerky, and so is the release.
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Brodieman · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:15:40 PM »

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Golfers retire at what age? If you workout and maintain your athleticism and stay fit, you should be able to bowl 2 handed forever.

Does anyone here workout for bowling?

Cant fight bad genetics though.
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Oskuposer · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:25:26 PM »

Jason hurd takes a skip step its all style
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Brodieman · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:26:41 PM »

I am friends with a guy that throws two handed. He is one of the best bowlers in area. The pure power he has leaves a lot of people in awe, and he has the benefit of being left handed.

He has been putting up scores for a while, he had some knee issues but that could just be inherited so im not to sure about that.

That being said anything you do with constant repetition for years and years is going to wear you or anything else down for that matter. Its that preventative "maintenance" or preventative medicine that you should practice that can keep you going no matter what style you've adapted.
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echidapus · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:03:37 AM »

Repetitive movement on one side of the body can cause injury.

You can prevent that with the two handed bowling by using a dumbbell on the opposite side. It's not as easy to do this with a 1 handed approach. Take a dumbbell and you can do your approach normal. Then hold it the opposite way with your hands and go the other direction. You can build up both sides of your body and have equilibrium and can build more power

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High game 300, 298(no middle finger) 290, 290(no middle finger)
High series 804
High triplicate 774
High average 221
best game. when I was 6 I bowled a 158

I have a 16# morich awesome finish I want to trade. 1 season on it. I am looking for 15# stuff

completebowler · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:33:07 AM »

Working out will not stop the repetitive strain injuries that come as a result of bowling. 2 Handers increase this strain by the amount of force exerted on the knee, hip, wrist, and shoulder.

Muscles are muscles. Joints are the issue at hand here. They will break down regardless and 2 handed or no thumb styles speed this process up.
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Powermachine- · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:35:13 AM »

bowling takes athleticism i work out 6 days a week im not even close to fat but its to keep my body able to bowl a lot of games wrist knees need strong legs for balance good strong wrist to manipulate the ball to what you want it to do. If the game was so easy everyone even people who just bowl for the hell of it can bowl 300 i think not.
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echidapus · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2009, 10:42:51 AM »

The bowlers at the two houses I bowl at don't show any signs of athleticism.

There has been no correlation b/w 300's and being in shape. If you just do things on one side of the body you increase your risk of overuse injuries. If you do it to both sides you have a greater ability of balancing out the body to prevent this from happening. It's more difficult I find to swing with my left arm than right arm. I do find it easier to go two handed left handed then it is to go one handed left handed. I'm a righty. Working out is the best way to prevent injuries in any "sport"

including golf and chess
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High game 300, 298(no middle finger) 290, 290(no middle finger)
High series 804
High triplicate 774
High average 221
best game. when I was 6 I bowled a 158

I have a 16# morich awesome finish I want to trade. 1 season on it. I am looking for 15# stuff

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