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Difference from A and B Games
« on: January 31, 2005, 02:39:40 AM »
I was at a national ranking event here in England, and a group of us got talking about A and B games. My question is, how is your A game different from your B (and C game, in some cases!)? Specifically, is you approach or follow through or artmswing different from one to another. I have seen one bowler over the weekend throw a slightly unorthodox craker style, and then switc to play a style that seemed very similar to the roll and release of Walter Ray, with a completely different armswing and approach.
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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2005, 04:36:40 PM »
To add to what Bob and 'Bones have said, it can be any number of things.  However, it typically doesn't come down to just one thing being different, but a combination of things: Speed, release, extreme line change, and so on.  Most bowlers can change any one thing and still be in a relative "comfort zone", but when 2 or 3 or more things need changing all at once, the "A game" goes away pretty quickly.

For me personally, changes in speed and changes to extreme lines do not detract greatly from my game.  Yes, there is a speed and line I'd like to use all the time, but I don't lose much in performance outside of them.  When you add a third element of change, things start to get tougher pretty quick.

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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 04:48:04 PM »
If you consider hand position/speed changes, A and B games, well then i have the whole alpahbet.  But, for me, my A and B game difference is a completely different style, aka looking like walter ray, or swinging it out using completely different mechanics.
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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 05:04:10 PM »
Me:

A game: playing outside throwing harder with speed and roll (Parker Bohn style sort of)

B game: right off of the corner when they are dry with more speed and less hand (Walter Ray style again sort of)

C game: (yes I go that far sometimes): Inside many revs as I can get with speed, more axis rotation and not as far out (Jason Couch only much slower and not as many revs)

D game: drink beer and throw at the head pin.

E game: drink more and bowl right handed

F-Z game: do shots and give up.

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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 05:05:36 PM »
I agree the difference between A game and B game is mechanics.. physical armswing and feet work (timing) and different body alignment (high and shoulders are foul line). Within each of those are the some things like, adjusting ball speed, adjusting releases...etc.  And I have a spare game I call c that simply does nothing but shoots single, double and some 3 pins spare combinations.

I understand the theory that you should keep things as much the same as possible to perfect one style, but I dont happen to subscribe to it.
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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2005, 01:45:55 PM »
to me there is no a and b game in bowling it is just changing to the conditions. just cause you don't crank doesn't mean if the condidtions call for it you cant swing the ball a bit. Also you can have a cranker straighten it out and shoot down and in. to succeed now a days you need to be good at adjusting. This is only my opinion.
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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2005, 01:53:34 PM »
The MAIN difference between my A and B game (besides that B is even worse then A) is wrist position/release. My A game, I have my pinky tucked, my wrist cupped, and lots of side roll. My B game, I have my pinky untucked with my index finger pulled in, wrist fairly straight, and more forward roll. (and way less revs) The problem I face with this is being accurate with less revs, which I'm not. (I'm not accurate with MORE revs either haha) My armswing, now that I think about it, is also way different. My A game has a pretty muscled swing, high back swing, my B game has a pretty free swing, fairly low, more speed.
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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2005, 08:39:55 PM »
Interesting sometimes to stop and think what is your A or B. Mine has actually changed over the past couple years, but thanks to a different center I am subbing or bowling my old A is rearing its head again.

When I was at my peak my A was playing around the 5 board, maybe as deep as 8 swinging to the edge. Over the years and with change in equipment and conditions that A moved deeper and deeper. Now that I am playing both the gutter and as deep as 4th arrow or more I can see a difference in several aspects of my game. When faced with the gutter shot or close to it, I am more in line with the lane (obvious to play the angle), but also get much more roll on the ball using different hand positions. I also have a much more solid push away and longer, smoother armswing. Ball speed tends to be higher, but that depends on the volume of oil on that night. I have even been able to move up the boards with success on occasion, something I never could do before.

Move inside and my mechanics also change. I will tend to have a waggle(similar to Chris Barnes) to open the sholder. The wrist is typically in a cupped position and the push away more of a downward motion. Armswing is a little more muscled with ball speed reduced by the shorter armswing. Recently the deeper angle ends up being my A game only because of drier conditions, especially second set of travel league. When they get really dry the speed becomes accelerated,but more from muscle than changes. Had the choice the old favorite of playing somewhere around 6,7,8 and swinging out to the 2 board would be where I would go. Something I might not have said just a few months ago. I has felt good to roll the ball instead of throwing it for a change.

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Re: Difference from A and B Games
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2005, 01:46:51 AM »
I think A and B games have more to do with how you play the lane and hand positions to get the best roll for these varying conditions. My latest coach has taught me that even though I have a good down and in game that there are going to be times that I need to open up the lane and with a slight tweak in terms of hand positioning and finger dancing, you can get a total unique look on the lane that will still carry the pins. I've never been fearful of playing the ditch or playing as deep at 4th arrow, but an area that I've been working on is hooking say from 15 to 2 and back. Every look adds a new trick to the bag that will allow you to bowl smarter when the lane conditions call for it.

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