Author Topic: Ball dying! Help! (Read 1374 times)

Senior · « **on:** December 12, 2009, 12:30:36 AM »

Looking for help with ball rolling out, especially on dry lanes. I estimate my speed at 14-15 mph and would consider myself to be a stroker. Currently throwing a Power Groove, Purple & Silver. This ball loses it's polish easily and seems to require a lot of maintenance. Is there a better ball that won't roll out and has some finish at the end? Anything else I should be doing?

« **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2009, 08:37:50 AM »

That''''s what dry lanes do to equipment. Too much friction burns off the polish faster, and that''''s what is causing the ball to roll out... Friction too soon on the lane.

Try more side rotation with your release and even have your pro shop take your ball to 4000 before adding a high gloss polish. This should help, but the center really should condition the lanes better, if for no other reason than to protect the lane surface from excessive wear.

If the Power Groove is rolling out then there probably isn''t another ball that would help. Most balls are stronger and would compound the problem.

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tuckingfenpin · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2009, 09:06:00 AM »

XXXL Starburst (plastic with a core) by Lane#1, or you could try Urethane.

Power Groove is pretty much the lowest of low in reactive ball strength.
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Gazoo · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2009, 09:22:05 AM »

"This ball loses it's polish easily"

Polished balls need to be repolished every so often to maintain backend reaction. Degradation can occur faster or later depending on lane surface. Repolishing every 21 games as routine maintenance can be a good "rule of thumb".
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JohnP · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2009, 09:54:56 AM »

1. More speed
2. Less revs
3. More axis rotation and/or axis tilt
4. PG is about as weak as you're going to get in reactive resin. XXXL has already been mentioned, but several companies have introduced urethane balls with dynamic cores, Storm Natural for one. These will break less and smoother than reactive resin.
5. Change to a center that uses more oil. -- JohnP

Juggernaut · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2009, 10:23:49 AM »

While all of the answers above are correct, there are a couple of other options that comes to mind.

A mild reactive cover over an old fashioned "pancake" core, or a HARD urethane cover with a decent core.

A.M.F. still makes a "pancake" cored mild reactive called SMOKE, and Visionary makes a HARD urethane with a decent core called OGRE Urethane. Both of these balls like more friction than most others and seem to perform at their best when more friction is available.

If your PowerGroove is rolling out due to dry conditions, either of these MAY be an option for you.

Unfortunately, todays "modern" equipment does seem to need much more maintenance than the balls of yesteryear did to maintain their level of performance.
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Senior · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2009, 11:22:53 AM »

Thanks for the replys.
Adding to my original post I bowl twice a week, in the morning, with a group of other senior men at a older run down facility (with the dry lanes). I also bowl in a evening men's league at a Brunswick facility that does keep the lanes conditioned nicely. Add in about 5 games of practice on Sat. morning and I'm at about 15 games a week. Currently averaging 175 at Brunswick and 165 at the other house. I have a lot of difficulty carrying strikes and leaving splits, 8-10, 5-7, 4-5-7(on a light hit). I am a good spare shooter. As an example, last week, in the evening Men's league, I did not miss one makeable spare,(and even made a 4-5 split). Total strikes for the night = 8 with no doubles. In the first game I had a 8-10, 4-10, and 7-10.
I purchased the Power Groove at the pro shop at the Brunswick house about a year ago, when I came back to bowling. I have had the ball polished at the pro shop and also "cooked" to get the oil out. After the polishing the ball does work nicely at the Brunswick house and also okay at the other house, for a while. I clean the ball after every set, before I put it in the bag, and also use "renew-it" about once a week. It has now been about 75 games since it was "cooked" and polished by the pro shop.
It would seem that I should get another ball for use on the dry lane house.

Sorry for the long "rant". I'm just frustrated and disappointed.
Thanks again for the replies. Keep the thoughts coming!

DON DRAPER · « **Reply #7 on:** December 12, 2009, 12:38:40 PM »

many bowlers choose not to take care of their equipment......sad to say, especially with bowling balls costing $150 or more and the economy being what it is. first, never leave your equipment in your car. modern bowling balls are made of volatile chemicals and do not respond well to changes in humidity and temperature. you should also clean your equipment after every use. if you have polished equipment they will need to be repolished on a regular basis. if you have dull balls they need to be rescuffed on a regular basis. having the ball resurfaced with a haus-type machine and having the oil extracted by a revivor or rejuvenator will insure that your ball is restored to a new condition and will last you for hundreds of games. these maintenence type items i mentioned are partly dictated by how many games you have used the ball and by what type of lanes you are bowling on. synthetic lanes usually create less wear and tear on a bowling balls surface. wood lanes will leave a greater amount of wear on a ball.

lenstanles703 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 12, 2009, 01:37:46 PM »

The Power Groove Silver/Purple is a great ball,PK17 cover. Just keep it polished and it will do fine. For the dry house I would use a polyester or polished urethane. I have the Ogre Urethane and its a great ball for the dry in oob finish. You could try to find some old urethanes on line if finances are tight. Maybe a Udot(columbia) or something similar. I think Brunswick made a Groove Urethane at one time too. Good Luck!
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JohnP · « **Reply #9 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:52:00 PM »

Brunswick does make a reactive resin ball with a weaker cover than the standard PG, the PG Dry/R, but I think you''d be better off with urethane in the dry house. -- JohnP

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