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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: 2handedvolcano on November 17, 2016, 10:38:11 AM
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Isn't sure
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Some do, some don't.
Which pinsetters are you referring to?
Either way, just try to knock out the corner pins on a full rack...
This is actually good practice. Throw your first ball anywhere and everywhere, and then try to convert your spares.
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Or just throw at the 10 and then the 7, it's the same thing.
Play a game of low ball where a perfect score is 20.
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Once, I was shooting the 10-pin out of a full rack, and I ended up making just the 7-10 out of the full rack twice in a span of 8 shots. It was crazy!
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i am a pin aimer so i can't have any middle pins up. Is it only on the A2 pinsetters?
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There is one house in Las Vegas that uses pins that have a flat magnetic tip on the top of them, and the pinsetters use those to set the pins. The manufacturer is Mendes. And with their scoring system, you can spot whatever pins you want at any time, from full rack, to having to re-spot a pin from having fallen over after the pinsetter hit it. That would be what you're looking for.
Now, having that said, if you are a "pin aimer" and can't have any middle pins up, that speaks more about your inability to control your ball than anything. I've said this here before, and this is a prime example of why we did it in my collegiate days, so I'll say it again.
One night during our team's practice, our coach had us go through 32 out of a 40-lane house, starting on lane 1, and take the 7-pin and the 10-pin ONLY off the rack. If you got only those two, you went to the next lane and did it again. Wash/Rinse/Repeat until you got those on lane 32. After that, you could go home. For example, if you were able to get the 7-pin, but took out the 6-pin (and whatever pin it deflected into) and the 10-pin, you stayed on that lane and tried again. Most of the team took 90 minutes to two hours to finish, while the first one done finished in 45 minutes; it was a lady, at that.
Doing this not only helps with your accuracy to take out corner pins, but as a byproduct, you may have a better chance of picking up a 6-7-10 or 4-7-10 because of how you can miss to the right of the 4 or 6-pin and still keep the ball on the lane. By your own admission, if middle pins are bothering you so badly that you can't take out a corner pin, you depend way too much on room, your accuracy is way down, and your two-handed delivery is severely hurting your spare game.
Everyone here has given you advice on what you need to do, and they all have been the same. To go further, I'd suggest dropping a 2-handed delivery for your spares, because accuracy counts for those, and as mentioned by myself and others, your accuracy on spares is highly lacking.
BL.
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Brunswick GSX has the ability to do this as well. To do it from the lanes the center would have to have that option available to the bowler as you can turn it off or on in the management system. We have Vector Plus scoring from Brunswick and it has an option for it, but we only have A machines, so it is not possible
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My Junior Travel Coach would not let us throw for strikes until we took a 7 and a 10 clean off the rack (on 2 shots) 5 times. In juniors, that took a while for some.
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i am a pin aimer so i can't have any middle pins up.
So if other pins are up you are unable to focus on the 10 pin.
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a brunswick GSX machine is the only machine that can set up a single pin.
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a brunswick GSX machine is the only machine that can set up a single pin.
This is not true. Mendes can set up any pin you arbitrarily choose. You can have it sweep the entire rack and put up only the pins you want. And you can do that directly from the lane, without help from the front desk or the mechanic in the back.
BL.
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This is true, but the last I checked there are less than 10 mendes centers left in the US.
a brunswick GSX machine is the only machine that can set up a single pin.
This is not true. Mendes can set up any pin you arbitrarily choose. You can have it sweep the entire rack and put up only the pins you want. And you can do that directly from the lane, without help from the front desk or the mechanic in the back.
BL.
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This is true, but the last I checked there are less than 10 mendes centers left in the US.
a brunswick GSX machine is the only machine that can set up a single pin.
This is not true. Mendes can set up any pin you arbitrarily choose. You can have it sweep the entire rack and put up only the pins you want. And you can do that directly from the lane, without help from the front desk or the mechanic in the back.
BL.
the amount of Mendes centers open does not mean that a Mendes pinsetter can not set up a single pin.
BL.
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just harass the front desk about spotting pins
I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that
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i am a pin aimer so i can't have any middle pins up. Is it only on the A2 pinsetters?
If you can't pick up corner pins with middle pins set up, then your problem is focus. You are not keeping focus on you target. When you lose focus on your target you are moving your eyes and your hand will follow your eyes. You really need to practice using the low ball game to improve your focus and spare shooting.
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i am a pin aimer so i can't have any middle pins up. Is it only on the A2 pinsetters?
If you can't pick up corner pins with middle pins set up, then your problem is focus. You are not keeping focus on you target. When you lose focus on your target you are moving your eyes and your hand will follow your eyes. You really need to practice using the low ball game to improve your focus and spare shooting.
Very well stated. This is an excellent point.