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oldschoolbowler

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where do u see the game in 20 years?
« on: July 22, 2011, 01:04:30 PM »
im new to this site and this is post.

I have been bowling since well the 60's ive bowled with rubber, plastic,urethane all the way up to the new high tech balls of today. Ive had lots of success in the game with many honor scores shot before and after the introduction of resin and pearlized and hybrid covers and weight blocks. But i cant help but be amazed at the state the game is at now when a person starts bowling and averages 200 in their first season its one of three things, phenominal talent, tons of practice, or a product of the what most of us a have became accustome too as a THS. My question for you is how far is this game going to advance. Ive bowled with the several former touring players in my days and asked them this question 20 yrs ago, one said "i see scores continue to climb, true talent being replaced with the ability to turn the ball" another said " as long as they continue to tranform the game luck and chance will play major roles in determining who wins". So what do you think the game is going to be like in twenty years?


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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2011, 11:18:17 PM »
 Have to think there will be some positive changes in regards to oil patterns for competitive, sanctioned bowling.
Unfortunately, 2 handed bowling will continue to increase in popularity, which in my opinion is sad for the sport of bowling.



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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 12:28:13 AM »
i;m glad to see people opinions on this matter i agree with all of you on the issues we all see with the game i can only hope that certain issues will be met with in the future to save our game from becoming a insignificant pass time its threatening to become.

"bowling used to take talent now it takes lots of speed and revs and little to no accuracy, wanna b#%@h bowl with rubber balls. and yeah it is that easy"

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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2011, 05:19:52 AM »
IMHO

If bowling is led by the current contingent of leaders....it is in more trouble than EVER. Every organization has leaders that are more concerned with 'justifying their existence in the universe' than moving the game back in the direction it needs to be. We have too many egos currently worried about the legacy and not enough individuals that truly want to help do the things, such as promoting and growing the youth movement. The PBA will more than likely be non-existant and more than likely any form of professional bowling will be over seen by the World Ten Pin Federation.

Bowling's loss of members is NOT due to equipment....unfortunately it is the easiest place to place blame, but it is the economy plain & simple. The issue with equipment is that the disparity between competitive lane conditions and what is deemed as THS is HUGE...and it is very difficult to be able to practice for it as PBA conditions are very difficult to duplicate. Today's youth are not concerned about getting better and going pro ...no reason to.

The game is in trouble and does look bleak for the next many decades to come...


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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2011, 06:25:24 AM »
I've heard several say bowling is down because of the economy.

 

If that was true then during full employment in the 1990's (unemployment was around 5% or less) bowling should have been booming but instead it was losing 10% to 20% each year of sanctioned members.

 

Sanctioned bowling has been in a steady decline for 30 years. The current economic situation is probably a factor in some of the recent decline and definitely in tournament bowling but there are far bigger society issues at work than just the economy.



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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 06:30:37 AM »
I have never talked to an ex-bowler who told me they quit the game due to the high scores....it is always due to life and it's new responsibilities....job, marriage & children....or even injuries as in my case...but I have yet to run across one telling me it got too easy


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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 06:30:54 AM »
I honestly believe the biggest reason bowling's popularity has been declining for decades now is because there's simply more stuff to do to occupy your time. People used to bowl league because there wasn't much else to do. Now that people can play Xbox, mess around on Facebook, watch any movie on-demand through Netflix, and so forth to kill time, there's a lot less incentive to go bowl in a league, which requires a big time commitment every week for 30+ weeks.



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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 01:24:04 PM »
I agree with this post.  In my later 40's now.  As a teenager, cable came with 20-40 channels as it expanded. My X-box was Intellevision which was the step up from Atari that my friends had. (supposedly).   There was no home computer.  MTV that played music videos 24 hours a day was the coolest thing on the planet.  Boy I sound old.  LOL  I got into bowling because I was a scrawny 5'8" kid with no chance at football, no height for basketball, and couldn't hit a baseball.  Bowling gave me a chance to compete.
 
Today, kids have a lots of other options available to occupy their free time.  And you can try all you want to get them into the game, but you face an up hill battle.  I'm not saying we should not try, but today, video games are more of what bowling was back in the 70's.  It's a chance to compete, when you lack the physical attributes that the normal sports require.  Everyone has an ego, and wants the chance to say they are the best at something.  That's what motivated me in bowling.  To practice and get better.  Because, I knew I had a chance to possibly be in the top of the sport.  Today, kids can do that in video games, and other activities besides sports.  So the ego can get attained in other ways.  Makes bowling harder to grow, and as the current population of bowlers get older, the over-all numbers decrease.
Dan Belcher wrote on 7/27/2011 6:30 AM:
I honestly believe the biggest reason bowling's popularity has been declining for decades now is because there's simply more stuff to do to occupy your time. People used to bowl league because there wasn't much else to do. Now that people can play Xbox, mess around on Facebook, watch any movie on-demand through Netflix, and so forth to kill time, there's a lot less incentive to go bowl in a league, which requires a big time commitment every week for 30+ weeks.





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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2011, 08:46:57 PM »
I am hoping the sport will still be around, but i think that the younger generation is not as interested in this sport, as i am. when i say interested,  i mean in sanctioned leagues, glow bowl does not count. the lack of a good pba show does not help either, heck i remember i couldn't wait for the pro bowlers tour every Saturday on abc, when it was live, and with a lot more excitement on those shows than the ones we have today. i have watched college team matches that are more exciting than the pba. but back to the question, with the way things are now, unfortunately people just either don't have the time or extra money to spend. i hope i am wrong, i guess we will see, in twenty years??


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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2011, 12:19:22 AM »
i realize in a way i came across as one sided towards the high scores i did (rico) have a couple people i used to bowl competitively with leave the game because its lost its challenge but most have as you mentioned left do to other life factors. I agree though that the state the economy as well as the modern convenience of computers, x box, facebook and all the other things kinds and adults would rather do than go out and compete in something is the biggest factor, in a way tho part of me still thinks like this if a kid can afford to go spend 60 bucks on a video game hell thats allot of bowling he could be doing instead of setting on his but getting more and more lazy. But thats me ive never been good with computers cause well until i retired it was a waste of time now im getting better. i see the game being nothing more than something to do every once in a while; when people would rather set in front of their computer for hours "Living life on social networking rather than calling or walking up to someone and having a conversation". If i could id take bowling back to wear it was when the factories were prosperous and the alleys were many to take your pick from but that time is dead and gone.


"bowling used to take talent now it takes lots of speed and revs and little to no accuracy, wanna b#%@h bowl with rubber balls. and yeah it is that easy"
 
Edited by oldschoolbowler on 7/29/2011 at 0:22 AM

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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 01:56:21 AM »

 



Rack Ripper wrote on 28.07.2011 8:46 PM:
I am hoping the sport will still be around, but i think that the younger generation is not as interested in this sport, as i am. when i say interested,  i mean in sanctioned leagues, glow bowl does not count. the lack of a good pba show does not help either, heck i remember i couldn't wait for the pro bowlers tour every Saturday on abc, when it was live, and with a lot more excitement on those shows than the ones we have today. i have watched college team matches that are more exciting than the pba. but back to the question, with the way things are now, unfortunately people just either don't have the time or extra money to spend. i hope i am wrong, i guess we will see, in twenty years??


Yup, I think that the telecasts have little charm since they are edited and shortened. Personally, I'd also love to see games from the qualification rounds (or some "dramatic" games from that earlier stage of competition), where more average players are around - which would also yield a more "realistic" and life-like picture of the sport behind it all. Just showing the final is pretty boring to me. You more or less see tha same hand ful of faces, maybe someone makes it there, but you hardly get an impression what it took to beat a LOT of other bowlers. I think that this limited format also does not pay justice to the skills of those who frequently make it to the finals, though.

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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 06:59:21 PM »

I thought we are going to die in 2012 ??




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Re: where do u see the game in 20 years?
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2011, 02:17:54 PM »
Dear JustRico:

 

You stated, and I quote you: The PBA will more than likely be non-existant and more than likely any form of professional bowling will be over seen by the World Ten Pin Federation.

 

And to that, I would hope that if that comes to pass, Kevin Dornberger (former CEO of the USBC) will no longer be president of WTBA.