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trash heap

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Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« on: September 04, 2006, 09:54:49 AM »
I buy Columbia300 equipment and I am going to use them as an example.

Why create the Apogee? I would think the Action Packed or Big Bully would be close to this ball in reaction. How much different can it be. Is it any better?

Why create the Action Max? It seems similar to the Action.

Then there is all the mid range bowling balls will similar hook ratings and such!!!

Enough is enough.

A ball isn't good anymore after 16 Months on the Market. This is getting ridiculus! Pretty soon we are going to replace equipment 1/2 through league season because the ball will be only out there for 4 Months.

Ball Manufactures are going to run out of Names to call these new bowling balls.

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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2006, 06:10:00 PM »
The companys never releases two pearl, or two solid balls etc. They make one pearl, one solid, one particle then maybe a combinatiton of all those. But there is a meaning for all the balls they releases.
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2006, 06:15:59 PM »
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I buy Columbia300 equipment and I am going to use them as an example.

Why create the Apogee? I would think the Action Packed or Big Bully would be close to this ball in reaction. How much different can it be. Is it any better?




The Apogee will allow more control over reaction shape than the AP would since it has a significant MB to help tune the reaction.

See this article by Rick Bennoit explaining the differences he saw between an Absolute Inferno and the Vapor Zone which share the same coverstock.
http://www.brunswickinsiders.com/PBATour/PBATournaments/2006tournaments/Cheektowaga/featuredballbuff.htm

Maybe the average Joe Bowler can't recognize the difference between the two reactions, but someone in the know can utilize these seemingly insignificant differences.

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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2006, 06:16:04 PM »
It is no different then buying a car. How many tire and rim configerations do that have out there for the same car or truck. And if you do nto like any of those, you can always go to a AFTER-MARKET place to pick just the right one for you. Well, bowling balls are the same thing. You can find just the right one for what you want. Knew a lady when I was living in San Diego. She bought a Purple bowling ball, then Purple shoes and a Purple bag. she did nto care what the ball did, she just liked the color purple and that is what she bought. So if there were not all these different choices, she might not have found what she liked.
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2006, 06:30:41 PM »
There is no way to justify having to buy all those balls except to say Once you establish the desire for something its easy to convince yourself you need it
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 06:37:09 PM »
To make a long story short, NO, we don't need all these balls from all these manufacturers.  I'm sure that if we only had 1/2 half as many balls out there, there would still be plenty and we could all find one that worked.
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BOWL119

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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 06:45:11 PM »
You know Riley, my wife is always saying that I really do not need the new ball. But I have convinced myself that I need one. And it is easier to let me get the new ball then to argue with me.
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 06:48:29 PM »
I agree with the no answer. we dont need them and 9 time out of ten the balls we have come within a board or two of each other anyway. I am finding more and more that if i have a shot with one of my balls i have a shot with all of them and vice versa. If I only had 2 i would probably still be the same 160 bowler. Now I am the best equipped 160 bowler, with too many choices and not enough knowledge to know when and how to use what.
    I guess bowling balls to me have gotten to be like shoes for women. I cant seem to pass up a deal. I bought my passion for 80 .My solution for 11. My battle and epic I got from ball leagues this summer after my stuff was stollen. Most my other stuff right now I have gotten of ebay for under 15 bucks just because i won the bids. I cant honestly say that anyone imparticular has helped me to be a better bowler, but it gives me something to do
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 07:22:31 PM »
J_Mac,

Good article. Parker scored very well that week (made it to semi finals).

Unfortunately, Joe Bowler thinks its best thing out there since it is the latest.
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 07:41:48 PM »
No, you do not NEED all of them.

Joe Bowler does not know the difference and just thinks he should get the "lates and greatest", "most hookinest" ball available. He needs a reliable source to make a recommendation. Without that, he will just buy the newest ball at the top of the hook rating scale.

Then there are the rest of us. We know the latest release will not add 20 pins to our average. However, we still order up the new release either because we "deserve it", we "want it", or because we like to experiment with new ball technology (different drills, different cover tweaks, etc.). Bowling is my drug. I am addicted to Buzzsaws. I order up each new one just to add it to the collection and to go play on the lanes. It's what I do. If you think it's rediculous, you are right, but there is nothing you can do to understand.
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 08:00:52 PM »
novawagonmaster,

Don't worry....Some day they will find a cure for your addiction.

Realization that you have a problem is the first step.
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2006, 08:04:34 PM »
No, we probably don't need all these balls but,

The ball companies are in business to sell bowling balls for profit.  All the companies have done research and their psychology of purchasing data shows that we will buy more balls (units) if they are introduced they way there are presently.

It is hard to tell the difference of recent releases and the ones before it.  But, the new balls are much different than balls from 3-4 years ago.  Hard for the ball companies to sell ball from 3-4 years ago.  Technology keeps advancing.


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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2006, 08:15:54 PM »
J-Mac,

Regarding Rich's article about Parker and the AI vs the VZ, I'd hazard a guess that there aren't 20 people here out of every person registered on ballreviews who even know how to manipulate a mass bias/PSA cored ball that way.

Ballreviews people are generaly much more knowledgeable than "Joe Bowler", but most of them, even after having the drilling of Mass Bias balls explained to them (by people such as  Rich Hamlin, Rick and Carl from Track forum, king of the mill, tekneek and several others here), still ask basic questions about them.

There are too many balls produced. I understand that even Brunswick has to discontinue and re-introduce a ball (Nemesis to Wizard) if only to change the color and keep the new ones fresh in customers minds.

There are so many balls with so many trivial differences.

Heck, does Brunswick really need the AI? Can't the VZ be drilled to emulate the symmetric reaction of the AI?
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2006, 08:20:27 PM »
charlest, that is a very good point. Shouldn't a, experienced ball driller be able to (within reason) drill a ball to emulate what you want? Wether you go with something from the ZONE line or INFERNO line. Shouldn't a ball driller be able to drill them to react somewhat the same (like is said, within reason)?
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Re: Do we need all these bowling balls from the Manufacturers?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2006, 09:41:36 PM »
Yes! All bowlers today should just quit the game. No one will ever compare to the skills (Revs, Speed, and Power) of bowlers 30 years ago. [Noted Sarcasm II)
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