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Dabalos

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Shorter Oil
« on: January 10, 2008, 09:24:09 PM »
My house just changed our league shot and shortened the oil pattern.  The amount of oil seems to be the same but its just not as long anymore.  Whats the best way to attack this condition now?  Do I play deeper and send it out farther?

 

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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 05:29:01 AM »
I have faced the same problem...

Playing deeper and sending it out wider means you have to play more accurate... and I couldn't do this

Using a ball with a less strong backend reaction was a good option for me... yet I am struggling.

You can also try and change something in your release... like giving the ball more end over end roll instead of siderotation or trying to speed it up

I have seen some pros play the ball "weaker" with such a more forward roll to get less backend.
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 05:33:53 AM »
Logic would say that, while keeping evething the same, the ball will grab the lane sooner and therefore hook earlier, covering more boards - and may even lose energy. I know your proble, too, local houses around here also tend to shorten their patterns to 35' or increase the buffed areas, which is difficlut for me due to my low speed.

Well, if you use the same equipment and do not wnat to cahnge a lot, you can try moving target and feet for a deeper line, a swing shot. That's probably the simplest approach while maintaining most of the familiar factors. Sometimes, moving closer to the gutter while maintaining the same foot/target ratio can also do the trick - some lanes allow this adjustment, also as a consequence of oil migration in the track area.

Other things to try are release adjustments (more skid) or slightly more speed, and you can change the ball - either hit the one you use with some polish for added length (if it is not already shiny), or try a ball with a relatively weaker coverstock/drilling, one with a pin above the finger/high position and not overly strong (say, at least 4.5" pin from PAP) should also be an option.

Good luck, though - use the change as an opportunity to learn how to tackle short oil. Even though the ball moves more, it is not easy to stay competitive in the long run, since the little oil in the heads quickly migrates and you might encounter carrydown and burnout, especially with strong coverstocks and matte surfaces.
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 05:43:43 AM »
depending on the break point, you want to get in with something a little weaker, but dont get it out so far to quick
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 05:57:37 AM »
Don't you guys think that if all centers shortened their house pattern, the bowling would be more challenging?  Not hard, but slightly more challenging?  The scores would probably tick downward, and the better bowlers would be making the correct adjustments, rather than everyone missing left and right, and still holding pocket?  Just a thought.....
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 06:23:19 AM »
I do not think so, but that's just me, because I "suffer" from lower speed and good revs. Even though I try to tell myself it is a challenge and to stay competitive even under adverse conditions, late games on such a condition are no fun at all (for me), when I know I cannot play relaxed anymore, just battling the condition with force after anything else has failed.

From time to time, it is O.K. But if you have to play this all the time, the frustration level rises since you never get to shoot on longer oil and play on more... supporting conditions.

I had the opportunity to play Cheetah once, and it fits the light/short oil bill. Even though I did not find it difficult to play overall, the transistion and the drying track area were the greatest challenge to me.
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 06:41:16 AM »
Good luck getting centers to take away the cake shot and possibly pi***ng someone off. Bowlers as a whole, are some of the biggest babies and if they have to move or aren't in the comfort area they tend to complain
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 07:29:03 AM »
quote:
Don't you guys think that if all centers shortened their house pattern, the bowling would be more challenging?  Not hard, but slightly more challenging?


The scores would tick downward but would eventually come back up as people learned how to attack the shorter pattern.  Then, a few months later, you lengthen it and scores go back down until people figure that one out too.

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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 07:53:48 AM »
It just seems like a quick and simple remedy, but yes, the whining will begin.  I always felt LESS oil would stop the sprayers from still hitting the pocket even though they missed 5 left or right.   I am one of those sprsyers trying not to do it, but sometimes you don't realize how bad you missed.
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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 09:23:26 AM »
Shorter oil that is not heavier can allow enough skid to get the ball to the  break point for most of the first game if you are the only player using your line.  Transition on short medium/light patterns is the challenge.

 Normally you will need to get 2 or 3 more feet before your ball begins to read the lane.  This can be achieved by 1. moving in to find more oil in the heads and mid lane - 2.  increasing ball speed - ? loft  3.  increasing rev rate will increase skid.  4.  ball change - particle pearl can help increase length and soften the move at the break point - weaker core and cover? - 5.  surface grit adjustment with extender polish to smooth the transition and soften the balls move at the break point? 6.  hand position adjustments are always critical.

No doubt there are many experienced bowlers who can share what works for them.

Currently, I favor the power groove with a long pin, and a weak drill, and the roto grip RS-P.  Either of these balls can be very even tempered, responding to delivery changes with out over reacting.


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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2008, 11:02:30 AM »
Shorter Oil patterns...

It all depends on what type of bowler you are...

Crankers have trouble with shorter patterns because the balls check up earlier than expected and that cause the ball to over react..  You will need to play the oil and the most common shot would be a crossing short accross the lane.

Option #2 - Get a weaker ball like was stated before and play your normal shot...  When bowling your body normally does the same motion and its alittle more difficult to try another motion if its not natural....

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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2008, 11:08:29 AM »
My first instinct would be to move your breakpoint closer to the ditch (depending on the actual pattern length, maybe as far out as the 2-3 board)...  Trying to play deep on a shorter pattern is usually a headache (IMO).  The challenge becomes finding the right equipment/layout/surface to allow you to play out there.

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Re: Shorter Oil
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2008, 11:31:43 AM »
I agree with strapper.
Cheetah taght me real quick to get outside.
Use weaker equipment, and go up the back of the ball.
Once you get good at it, it's not too difficult.

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