Author Topic: Do you change your release for a DRIER shot? (Read 2368 times)

Ric Clint · « **on:** July 07, 2004, 02:08:38 PM »

Or do you keep your reguar release and use a milder ball?

I'm usually sort of up the back of the ball, and wit my high track, I can't get a ball through drie heads good at all... but it was recently recommended to me to tilt my axis more and come round the ball more (or kind spin the ball slightly I guess) to get the ball through the heads better.

What do you all do?

BowlingDude300 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2004, 08:19:28 AM »

I flatten my hand out with the same ball. I would like to get a milder ball though...

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MTFD24 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2004, 08:31:59 AM »

Having the pleasure of bowling 3rd, 4th or 5th squads at many tournaments (without fresh oil), a tip that has helped me was one from some local greats (Brad Angelo, Fran Bax and Bruce Heim).

In my setup I start with my hand in the "suitcase position" or so that the thumb is at 10 o'clock and the fingers at 3 o'clock (right hander). Then maintain that position throughout the swing and release. This has allowed me to get through the heads cleaner, good length, and tamer back-ends.

It took me quite awhile to be comfortable with it, but is now a part of my game for certain conditions. Also found out that this works well with "flying backends" such as the PBA "A" pattern when the lanes have the backends stripped.
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LuvThatWhiteDot · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2004, 08:55:32 AM »

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Having the pleasure of bowling 3rd, 4th or 5th squads at many tournaments (without fresh oil), a tip that has helped me was one from some local greats (Brad Angelo, Fran Bax and Bruce Heim).

In my setup I start with my hand in the "suitcase position" or so that the thumb is at 10 o'clock and the fingers at 3 o'clock (right hander). Then maintain that position throughout the swing and release. This has allowed me to get through the heads cleaner, good length, and tamer back-ends.

I learned this same trick from the same guy (Fran Bax) at the Bowlers Journal tournament in Syracuse back in 1999

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MTFD24 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2004, 09:00:45 AM »

Fran is amazing...LOL. Was the 1st person to have over 100 consecutive ABC sets of 600+, also 50 plus 300's and 30 plus 800's (all sanctioned). He is also a very amusing, comedic individual, on and off the lanes. Always a pleasure to bowl with, but not against...LMAO

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tenpinspro · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2004, 10:17:08 AM »

Hey Ric,

I do what Bones says pretty much but I start and stay with a broken wrist position thoughout but release around it at the finishing point to increase tilt for skid.

Rick

TheBowlingKid25 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2004, 10:23:42 AM »

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Having the pleasure of bowling 3rd, 4th or 5th squads at many tournaments (without fresh oil), a tip that has helped me was one from some local greats (Brad Angelo, Fran Bax and Bruce Heim).

In my setup I start with my hand in the "suitcase position" or so that the thumb is at 10 o'clock and the fingers at 3 o'clock (right hander). Then maintain that position throughout the swing and release. This has allowed me to get through the heads cleaner, good length, and tamer back-ends.

It took me quite awhile to be comfortable with it, but is now a part of my game for certain conditions. Also found out that this works well with "flying backends" such as the PBA "A" pattern when the lanes have the backends stripped.
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I am still working on this release. I found out about it a totally different way though, by watching my gf bowl. That is her normal release. I was bored and tried it and realized that really would help get through dry lanes better. Its almost a spinner release.
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jensm · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2004, 02:45:09 PM »

I try to flatten my wrist and go more to suitcase release. When I am focused on executing well, that is.

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MetalGod666 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2004, 03:18:27 PM »

I switch balls and throw it the same...usually pays off pretty good. Sometimes, I'll change my line and loft through the heads or just move right a bit and throw harder. There's many ways to attack drier lane conditons, but carrying becomes difficult.

janderson · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2004, 03:28:58 PM »

I'd rather move or switch to a weaker ball, but at times that's not enough.

Another adjustment I'll make when the heads are fried but there is still playable mids is the John Jowdy "drag release" as he describes it in his book, Bowling Execution. While I can not describe the release as well as he does...You release the ball parallel to the lane surface as if you're dragging your fingertips across the approach and only follow through as high as your target. This allows the ball to get through the heads cleaner without losing anything on the back end. It takes some practice, but once you have the method down, it can be a game-saver.

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In my setup I start with my hand in the "suitcase position" or so that the thumb is at 10 o'clock and the fingers at 3 o'clock (right hander). Then maintain that position throughout the swing and release. This has allowed me to get through the heads cleaner, good length, and tamer back-ends.

Absolutely. Great technique and fairly easy for most bowlers. This is usually a "last resort" however, for when even the urethane stuff is hooking like a monster.

Worst-case scenario, you can always switch to a broken-wrist style release and allow the weights in the ball to create enough movement to carry the 5-pin.
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Walking E · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2004, 04:17:13 PM »

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I normally go to a weaker ball and try to MOVE, but if that doesnt work then get wayyyy inside and LOFT THE GUTTER, play 6th arrow and it works out pretty good, plus it looks KOOL!!! in need or a weaker ball? PM me i have a few for sale/trade...
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Same thing for me, although I might be more between 5th-6th arrow and a more direct line to the head pin - basically aiming brooklyn. And I take almost all the hit off the ball and increase ball speed, coming up behind the ball and not "hitting up" (this is very different from my typical low-track spinner release). This worked really well in state tournament last year using my normal light-load particle strike ball. As long as I took the hit off, the ball would straighten out and hit solid brooklyn (good), solid pocket (also good), or through the nose (not as bad as you might think).
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Platinum Bowler · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2004, 04:21:27 PM »

I sure do.
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UtahBowler · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2004, 06:31:03 PM »

Change my release, add loft, or use my plastic (scooby doo owns).
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RSalas · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2004, 06:37:11 PM »

I usually stay with the same ball and just keep moving left. I've found that, even on conditions where other bowlers are saying that "there isn't a drop of oil out there," there's still plenty of oil on the left side of the lane.

Reminds me of one week in the winter when I was launching the caps, and someone from another pair of lanes asked me why I was playing so far inside. My response: "That's where the oil is."

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2004, 01:15:53 AM »

Suitcase release here too. Works great. Even when the entire lane is fried and there is nothing inside....it still clears the heads. If they are dry enough it works effectively sending out as well...the ball does all of the work. I can use it on a fresh shot and play straight down the dry and the ball will not pick up roll until about 30ft down the lane. This is my last resort though.

I always try to find oil left....or find oil right. Keeping the same release and switching balls helps....however sometimes the switch to a weaker ball makes someone hit the ball harder---so the results are close to what the stronger ball was giving.

Losing tilt helps great. I am currently working on my game to come around the ball more. I have always tracked high.....similiar to what Ric says he does. It was very difficult for me to get anything down the lane. If the high track is your "A" game, being able to come around the side more helps get you probably 5-6 more feet down the lane before the ball moves.

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