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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Good Times Good Times on February 23, 2017, 09:54:52 AM
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Well, after a little more run last night with the Code Black I bought I do not believe this is going to be a ball for me. It does seem like the ball is exceptionally squirty in oil and a bit too much when there is friction. It's not too versatile for me. I felt like I could tell the overall motion was not for me instantly. I have tried it on different conditions but that shape is just not what I was looking for even on conditions more suitable for it...I didn't get the look this ball is essentially slated for. It's OK, it happens.
It's definitely not matched up in the spot I was hoping for in my arsenal, which is the biggest issue.
It sucks....BUT I have a buyer and the loss I will take on it is actually quite minimal!
So, I'm going to get a DareDevil....which is the other option I was looking at (and probably should have went with first). I did try the CB b/c when you get that asymmetrical match-up it is amazing......but I'm going to go back to the symmetrical look.
So my question is: Have any of you purchased a new ball and just knew instantly that it wasn't to be?
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Oh yes. I can tell within a few shots, as well as if I might have missed the drilling also. So then next step is surface changes, then from that point get rid of ball or re drill..
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I would say so because we all know what reaction/shot shape we want out of a ball when we drill it. As such, when you throw it and see nothing close to what you were looking for, you have a pretty good idea that you've missed the mark. Now, that being said, it makes sense to try some surface changes and possibly even plugging and redrilling (sometimes) to try to correct it. But, yes, it usually doesn't take long to tell whether or not a particular ball is going to be what I was looking for.
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I had purchased a Motiv 2Cruel I knew early on it wasn't for me. For beginners, I wanted the pin-PAP distance to be around 4" because of the strong asymmetric core. For whatever reason, the pro shop put it 5 1/2" away. The ball rolled forward in the air it seemed. Couldn't get the ball downlane one bit.
I think I knew in 3 frames. The reaction was so bad I didn't even want to keep it with alterations.
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Thanks for the responses guys........it's just a bizarre thing.
I did tweak the surface some but still got that "blah" move at the spot.
We've probably all encountered this so it should be interesting to hear some of the stories....
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I didn't buy the ball, but I threw a demo Sync when I was looking for a heavy oil ball. After one throw I said "Ew" and handed it back to my Pso. I can't even say what I didn't like about it, but I hated it
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Once you've bowled for awhile and understand what works for you, it's pretty easy to tell.
I've figured out that most of my favorite balls have had a similar core shape in common
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I traded a Storm IQ Tour Pearl that I never matched up with for a Motiv Primal Rage. Within 7 frames of throwing the Primal Rage I handed it over to a teammate not wanting to throw it ever again.
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The only thing I know instantly is if the surface is not right for me. There are very few balls that I can't make work for me, although some may give me a bigger "sweet spot" than others.
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So my question is: Have any of you purchased a new ball and just knew instantly that it wasn't to be?
Most recently, the Hammer Scandal. I tried every surface imaginable, and even had it completely plugged and re-drilled. I've got it to the point where it's marginally usable, but I should have trusted my initial instincts of a no-go and cut my loses.
It doesn't happen often, but sometimes a ball doesn't match up no matter what you do.
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So my question is: Have any of you purchased a new ball and just knew instantly that it wasn't to be?
Most recently, the Hammer Scandal. I tried every surface imaginable, and even had it completely plugged and re-drilled. I've got it to the point where it's marginally usable, but I should have trusted my initial instincts of a no-go and cut my loses.
It doesn't happen often, but sometimes a ball doesn't match up no matter what you do.
This is exactly the sense I got from it and a great way to state it......marginally usable. That's what led me to make the change now rather than fight it.
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Yes, and a lot of balls have had lighting bolts on them. However, my driller always says sometimes what you don't want is sometimes what you need (reaction wise) most of us like "seeing" particular motions and if a ball doesn't match that we dismiss it.
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Remember those Silver Streak balls so many people loved?
Well, I hated the one I had. I think it had about 1/2 game on it when I gave it to a junior bowler. He killed with it. For me, it rolled way early, and puked on the backends.
Go figure.
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Most the time whatever balls people hate, work well for me.
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Let's see... Awesome Hook, Intense Inferno, Rule GP2, arsenal artillery...
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Yep, the Haywire. Tried surfaces changes and different houses and eventually sold it.
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Same experiences with a uproar, and a few other pieces (
Nine recently thank goodness) and after a while you get the feeling of just shooting it out of a cannon, or using it as a boat anchor/ spare ball, happens to us all at some point. :-\
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* Please note, that I am aware that I'm a weird bowler than most! That being said, I hated:
The XXX Extreme, the Invasion, the One, all Spider balls, the gold IQ pearl, the Cyclone, the Hyper-Cell Skid, and most recently the Scandal! :o
Go figure! ::)
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So my question is: Have any of you purchased a new ball and just knew instantly that it wasn't to be?
Oh yeah.
For me, it's been something that I know will be perfect, something I can make work, or was destined to be traded in or a ladybug in the front yard/garden.
The Ebonite Mission X. I had success with the original Mission and the Mission Domination (the latter being a 300 ball), so I wanted to retire the Domination and replace it with this.
Big mistake. It just wouldn't work how I had planned and had it laid out at all. Pulled it and put the Domination back in the bag (which was another mistake, as the pits ate up the ball to where it had to be replaced with a 250K. :( )
It was at this point that Ebonite (not EBI) started its downhill slide.
Traded the Mission X in for a Pursuit-S.
The Ebonite Pursuit series. I started with Pursuit-S, when they put out both a symmetric and asymmetric version. Both were just no.. absolutely no. No matter what I did, to it (surface adjustments, plug/redrill), they just wouldn't work. Put the 250K back in the bag, bode time, and traded the Pursuit-S in for the Challenge.
The Ebonite Challenge. I got this ball to work, and fared well with it, but again, the cover started to die quickly on it, and no matter how I revived it, it never performed the same after the first 10 - 15 games OOB.
At that point I switched completely over to Hammer.
Hammer Black Widow Legend. Loved the ball. Loved how the gas mask core creates that killer shape. Unfortunately after a good 15 games I could get a plastic White Dot or Maxim to hook more than this guy.. which was sad, because this was my introduction into the BW series. Luckily, the Red Legend kept the faith.
But yeah.. 2 Ebonite balls after they peaked with their success with the Mission and Mission Domination.. They just weren't it. Looking back, it made sense as to why TJ kept going back to his Gamebreaker.
BL.
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the Columbia Rock, Storm Trauma Response, Hammer Purple Vibe, Track 300t and Blue/Silver Power Grove were all balls that after a game I knew I didn't like.
The Trauma response was put into the bag for a tournament once after I decided to hate the ball and gave the look I need to throw well enough for a top 5 finish in singles and help my team to 2nd place.
The ball rolled like crap most of the time for me, but on the right conditions it was the only ball that would work.
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Yep, the Haywire. Tried surfaces changes and different houses and eventually sold it.
+1 on the Haywire. Never felt like the core and cover combination matched up to my game.