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trash heap

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Do you keep trying to help or do you throw in the towel?
« on: October 06, 2014, 05:39:35 PM »
There is a young teen on the high school team. I have tried working to improving his release. Actually I have made numerous attempts.  My concern is that he is no longer going to have a hand or wrist left the way he keeps throwing the ball.

Through the swing,  he is basically keeping his hand on top of the ball (fingers on the right, thumb on the left), as the arm goes forward he turns his hand so that his fingers are now in front and the thumb is behind. His release consists of flicking his wrist up, causing this funky looking spin on the ball.

I have tried to get him to change, and he refuses to listen. I am to the point of throwing in the towel. Is it is worth spending any more time with him? There are plenty of other kids that listen and want the help.

I am really concerned. I am just trying to stop the hand on top of the ball and wrist motion. I have been trying to encourage small adjustments.








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Re: Do you keep trying to help or do you throw in the towel?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 05:57:46 PM »
If he ain't listening, he ain't listening. You are better off helping the ones who want the help.
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Re: Do you keep trying to help or do you throw in the towel?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 06:22:37 PM »
I'm a youth coach as well, and if they don't listen and try to change, then i'm done.  If he is actually trying to change, but is having a difficult time, then i keep trying.  I also talk to the parents to see if he can do some drills at home or when they take him out to practice, and so that they also understand the problem. 
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Re: Do you keep trying to help or do you throw in the towel?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2014, 06:51:11 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on October 06, 2014, 05:57:46 PM
If he ain't listening, he ain't listening. You are better off helping the ones who want the help.

Have to agree here, and it actually may get to help him, in the long run. Think about it this way:

You're tired with Joe not listening. So you help David, Michael, Aaron, and Scott, Anthony, Brent, Jason, Stephen, and Todd.

Joel sees their scores and average start to improve dramatically, yet still refuses help. He then sees himself pulled from the 1st team, and put on the second team, as their scores continue to go up, while his stagnates or falls.

As he sees their results, he'll either come around and want help, or get frustrated and want to quit. That's when you go back to him and ask if he really wants to help and get his own scores up as well.

In short, once he sees his teammates' scores go up, he'll want help. But he has to WANT it first, so he has to see how others are improving, while he isn't improving.

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Re: Do you keep trying to help or do you throw in the towel?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2014, 07:45:13 PM »
It would beca lot harder to do that in many brands or wrist braces that are available. The reason is obviously that he thinks he is hooking the ball and thats where scores come from.

Adding a wrist brace may help him get a better release and rotation on the ball that may help get things back on track. Other wise you just have to try working with others more willing to learn.

Sometimes it is also a matter of thinking you are doing something different when you actually are not. Video can be very helpful.
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