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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: trash heap on August 05, 2013, 04:29:59 PM
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This could be any game, regualr league night, position night, or tournament.
It's the tenth frame and it comes down to the final bowlers on each team.
Do you?....
a. Insist that your opponent bowl first
b. Set up quickly because you prefer to bowl ahead of him
c. It doesn't matter to you one way or another. You bowl when its your turn.
For me its c., however I have run into many guys over the years that refuse to bowl first. My team might be on bowler 2 (5 man league) and the last guy on the other team will wait until the last guy on our team is done bowling.
Of course when the game has already been decided they will bowl.
It would be interesting two guys like this, and both of them refusing to bowl first. I am sure someone has seen this happen.
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B or C. And I almost came to blows with someone because neither one of use would go first. Kind of funny.
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I will go with C.
But if they show any hesitancy then I go ahead.
I have found that the vast majority of bowlers do not do well under pressure despite what they may say. So if I can, I try and put the pressure on them first.
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I usually bowl as soon as I can, but if I notice the other guy wanting to always have me bowl first, I will make him go instead.
Those bathroom runs can be handy. :-)
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b or c; but if I have had a good night, I probably would try to bowl ahead of my opponent
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B or C. And I almost came to blows with someone because neither one of use would go first. Kind of funny.
I thought courtesy/bowling etiquette almost requires that when both are ready at the same time, the one on the right goes first????
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B or C. And I almost came to blows with someone because neither one of use would go first. Kind of funny.
I thought courtesy/bowling etiquette almost requires that when both are ready at the same time, the one on the right goes first????
Yes, but when someone is drunk and doesn't particularly like anyone at the moment, they will look for any reason to start trouble. I gave him courtesy, he said no. I told him I wasn't ready. He said too bad. I sad you go ahead, .. he said, you know you have a smart mouth. Next thing people are pulling us apart. Just juvenile crap.
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I thought courtesy/bowling etiquette almost requires that when both are ready at the same time, the one on the right goes first????
They use to have it in the ABC book were they had the part about Bowling Etiquette.
Heres some different versions of it.
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ETIQUETTE RULE #6
Observe one lane courtesy. The bowler on the
right should bowl if both reach the approach at
the same time. Step to the back of the approach
while you wait and indicate to the adjacent
bowler that you are going to bowl after s/he
does.
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The number one courtesy is to yield the "right of way" to bowlers on adjacent lanes when both bowlers are ready to bowl at the same time. The bowler to the right has the right away and should bowl first. Make sure to stay off the approach until the bowler has completed their shot.
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# Bowlers on the right hand lane has the right of way to bowl first
He/she can waive the right of way to the person bowling on the left most lane if they so choose.
# Never pick up your ball from the return rack while another bowler is preparing to bowl and is in his/her starting position
Refrain from creating noises or movements that may be spotted out of the corner of their eye. For cases where another bowler constantly causes distractions while you are preparing to bowl, let them have the right of way. This way you can stay in control of your game and remain relaxed to take your shot.
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# Yield to the bowler on your immediate left or right if they are ready to bowl (one lane courtesy): don't even go near the ball return if the person on either side of you is bowling or getting ready to bowl. Stay behind the scoring console until the coast is clear. Some leagues and tournaments requier two lane courtesy!
# Don't stand next to the ball return while waiting for your second ball: this could distract a bowler setting up next to you.
Heres one I hadn't heard before-
# A bowler shooting a spare has the right of way over a bowler with a full rack: spare shooters need extra time to concentrate.
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C - doesn't matter. If my opponent shows any preference, I see it as a sign of a lack of mental toughness. I'll start talking to them about how I love it when the game comes down to the last frame.... enjoying the pressure.... holding my team's fate in my hands.... wonder aloud if I should adjust off my last shot.
Reminds me of a fun league night episode:
I threw a good shot late in the 9th frame of a close match and rung a 10. The pinsetter swept the 10 out and it needed to be reset. While it was being reset, the opposing captain "corrected" my score to reflect a missed spare. When it was reset, I asked him to clear the "correction" and move the arrows for my spare attempt. He apologized and said that he just assumed I had missed - just like the one I missed earlier that game. Didn't miss that one, and thanked him for trying.
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Some guys you can game, some you can't. Prefer to let the other guy go, because most of the time he will assume I will strike, and that puts more pressure on him. Key is not to really care.
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I agree with avabob. If you don't care it will never, ever be an issue. No one can play head games with you until you let them.
A few years back a friend and I were bowling against each other (for individual points as well as team points) and we both had the front nine strikes. We decided to take turns with myself going first:
Me - strike
Him - strike
Me - strike
Him - strike
Me - strike!
Him - BROOKLYN strike!
Yes, we both shot 300 and didn't win a whole point. We still laugh about that night, and I remember it as "the perfect game that didn't win" Fun stuff!
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c. It doesn't matter to you one way or another. You bowl when its your turn.
These mind games and other crap has ruined the game over time as it just slows down the whole game. Get up and bowl when it's your turn.
I play ready golf and ready bowling. The douchebags that won't bowl when a split is up on the next lane are idiots also.
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My answer is: C
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B or C. And I almost came to blows with someone because neither one of use would go first. Kind of funny.
I thought courtesy/bowling etiquette almost requires that when both are ready at the same time, the one on the right goes first????
Yes, but when someone is drunk and doesn't particularly like anyone at the moment, they will look for any reason to start trouble. I gave him courtesy, he said no. I told him I wasn't ready. He said too bad. I sad you go ahead, .. he said, you know you have a smart mouth. Next thing people are pulling us apart. Just juvenile crap.
A drunk is a whole 'nother problem.
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C - doesn't matter. If my opponent shows any preference, I see it as a sign of a lack of mental toughness. I'll start talking to them about how I love it when the game comes down to the last frame.... enjoying the pressure.... holding my team's fate in my hands.... wonder aloud if I should adjust off my last shot.
Reminds me of a fun league night episode:
I threw a good shot late in the 9th frame of a close match and rung a 10. The pinsetter swept the 10 out and it needed to be reset. While it was being reset, the opposing captain "corrected" my score to reflect a missed spare. When it was reset, I asked him to clear the "correction" and move the arrows for my spare attempt. He apologized and said that he just assumed I had missed - just like the one I missed earlier that game. Didn't miss that one, and thanked him for trying.
I agree with this. I'll do either based on my estimation of my opponent's mental game. If it's a close game and they don't handle pressure well, I'll go first to add some. However, if my opponent wants to get up and put pressure on me, I'll let them, because they're really putting pressure on themselves to put the pressure on me. If I decide it takes 3 strikes to win the game in the 10th, that's what I focus on, not just getting enough, or trying to make them choke. Lol, I don't talk at them, or break down the situation, I just keep my mouth shut and bowl whenever my opponent decides it's my turn. If they want me to go first, I'll go, if they want to go first, I'll let them. Either way they're psyching themselves out or adding pressure to themselves, not me.
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My answer is it depends on the situation. The real answer for me is C. I don't care.
If I think the other person cares and it's a competitive environment, I may play head games, but honestly most of the teams in my leagues are just there for fun. They are going to do what they are going to do regardless. They don't even know they should feel pressure. I don't mess around with the really recreational bowlers at all. I want them to enjoy their experience and some guy giving them a hard time isn't going to enhance that feeling. I try to help them. I give them encouragement. Sometimes I even give them a bowling ball I don't use anymore so they can stop using their 30 year old ball. Unless you're in a really competitive league, I don't see the value of even thinking about playing head games with people.
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I always use lane courtesy but outside of that, it doesn't matter to me whether I go first or last in such situations.
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I always let the other bowler go first. I also give 2 lanes as a courtesy or at least I try too. If I run into a situation that the other bowler wont bowl, then I wont fight it I will bowl -- BUT -- I will take my time and may even take a little longer than usual just so I don't rush, because I am going first, and he can wait!
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if its a close game ill bowl first to put the pressure on him(they usually choke lol) not a close game then it doesnt matter to me
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For me, it's C. It doesn't matter to me if I go first or last in these situations.
Now, there are those times (and every league has them), where there is the bowler who thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Yes, the really cocky or arrogant ones. In that case, I like to go first, so I can apply pressure (usually they will choke as luv2bowl12xs mentioned).
However, if I'm good friends with the bowler (which 95% of us in our league get along well and respect each other), it doesn't matter the order. In fact, I will encourage the other bowler (and vice versa) and show good sportsmanship. Even though we are a competitive league, there still is the respect for the game that we all enjoy.