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BigHorhn

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Old school bowlers
« on: May 24, 2005, 05:16:02 AM »
I'm giving up! I experimented with reactives and particle balls. I went from having the pin below the fingers to having it above the fingers. I tryed swinging the ball. I worked on getting my release to the point where I have to have oil to be effective. I've decided to go back to standing left and throwing right (lefty). The dry backends and carrydown are killing me. I can't get a consistent reaction trying to cover boards. How do you guys that track high have medium revs a little axis tilt, have your arsenal set up? I want to stay in my comfort zone a long a possible and I want to set up my equipment to compliment my game. I guess I need less agressive drills and change the cover or the ball for whatever condition its needed for but keep the drill simple. So that I can still play up the boards or in the track area. I have thrown bigger games swinging and covering more boards but I am losing my consistency. I'm tired of having a bad game in between two good ones. I know you can't help moving and playing a different part of the lane but i'd prefer not to. I know that there are some old school guys who prefer this style and maybe some new school also. I guess my speed is medium and I'm a stroker/tweener, if there's such a thing. Help me out guys. I'll supply more information if needed. I like particle and solid reactives.

 

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Re: Old school bowlers
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2005, 03:18:47 PM »
just from your rant, i'm guessing that you simply need a weaker surface ball so that there's less read at the midlane.  the only issue there is determining whether
a.  to go pin above the fingers or pin under the fingers, and
b.  polished or dull reactive.

might have to do some experimenting with some power grooves

got any video?

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Re: Old school bowlers
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2005, 04:30:34 PM »
with a lot of experimentation!

I startting on a summer leaague. sloppy backends as they only run the heads. makes life interesting each lane is it's own beast. now our heads are fresh so swinging thoeugh the carrydown is rough.

for these lanes I prefer low load particles at first. good strong backend ball to bite in the varry down.

Big Kahuna- pin down
Phenom unleased pin 3: above midline. 4 x 4.5


if i neeed length for dry heads I would polish the above gradually. I would also prefer a pearl particle ball.


a lot depends on what ball is in the shop when I go as opposed to a specific drilling I just tray and take what is know about the ball reaction, it's spec and dill it, surface it and releas eit best on what I ahve in front of me. I like to amke sure the ball clears the heads and make a strong smooth move off the midlane. before the slop.


just works for me.
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Re: Old school bowlers
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2005, 05:12:33 PM »
I have a high track, with med, to med high revs and speed.
I have had the most success with leverage positions.
Stacked and 315 are my favorites.  Here is my arsenal:

Charcoal executioner 800 polish 315 leverage pin just below the line drawn from the pap to the ring finger (was a mistake, but I like it. I track sometimes on the finger, but I am going to fix this).

http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets.php?id=11

Charcoal executioner 1000 polish label levrage (135) pin on the line from the pap to the ring finger right next to the finger hole.

http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets.php?id=10

Crimson executioner 1500 polish stacked leverage (75) pin on the line from the pap to the ring finger right next to the finger hole.

http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets.php?id=3  (also known as 75 degrees)

Slate Blue Gargoyle 1500 polish Label leverage (135) pin on the line from the pap to the ring finger right next to the finger hole.

http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets.php?id=10

You mentioned that you want to stay in your comfort zone as long as possible?
I have found that the 315 is the best layout for this.  It allows you to play down the boards, or open up the lanes a bit if needed.

IF you take a mildly aggressive ball with a low RG and put a 315 on it then put a slight polish on it, It gives you a good reaction, but then you also will be able to change the surface if you need to.

You can PM me if you have any questions.
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Re: Old school bowlers
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2005, 05:21:09 PM »
quote:
just from your rant, i'm guessing that you simply need a weaker surface ball


Bingo.  With most of today's equipment and lane conditions, it's hard to square up in the track area because the equipment is just too strong, even with weak drills.    Look for weaker coverstocks (such as that on the Dynothane Barrage) or switch to a pearlized urethane ball if you want to play in the dirt.

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BigHorhn

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Re: Old school bowlers
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2005, 09:46:23 AM »
Thanks guys. I don't have any video but, thats something that i will work on.
I've been thinking about that 315 drill and I think i'll try that. Does anybody know of any weak solid cover balls with strong cores? That would be a good place to start and then change the cover when needed. Thanks again.

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Re: Old school bowlers
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2005, 11:09:41 AM »
quote:
Thanks guys. I don't have any video but, thats something that i will work on.
I've been thinking about that 315 drill and I think i'll try that. Does anybody know of any weak solid cover balls with strong cores? That would be a good place to start and then change the cover when needed. Thanks again.


I have used the Charcoal ececutioner with good success.
The cover is very easy to adjust.  IT comes 600 sanded so I would but about an 800 polish on it.
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