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Laniarty

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Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« on: April 18, 2010, 05:36:39 PM »
For some time now I've been having trouble scoring consistently with pearlized coverstocks. It's actually gotten to the point where now my arsenal is varying levels of solid balls. Mission, Reign, Fast, Link, Emerald Vibe... I've tried them all and I don't get a consistent reaction from them, too much over/under. Does anyone else just not seem to be able to match up with pearl coverstocks?
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 02:24:52 AM »
It depends on what patterns you are bowling on.  If you feel you are getting too much over/under perhaps you could try to adjust the coverstock so that the pearls are matching up for you for their intended uses.  For instant, if a ball is going too long and it''s 4k hit it with a 2k pad and see what happens.  If it''s coming up too soon hit with a higher number pad, ie 2k coverstock with a 4k pad.  Maybe, even some polish on some of the 2k matte finishes might help.

Give it a try..worse that could happen is that it''s the same over/under as before.

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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 02:28:58 AM »
are you leaving the balls with the oob cover on them?? I myself have had trouble with pearl covers.. I was told to change the covers on them to get a truer reaction, not so much over under.. I have taken most of my pearls to a light 2k(abralon pad over the oob state).. if I need more length I add just a touch of factory finish to the top off that.. done on a spinner on low and not pressing very hard(not burning the polish in, just a gentle touch to shine)..
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 03:13:39 AM »
I have to use mainly pearls because of the lane conditions I face most often. Even with oil I still have a great reaction more times then not. I love solids as well but really have to stay away from sanded covers. They just give me a bad look most of the time. Usually if a ball comes dull out of the box I alter to give it some shine for where I bowl. I always take variety just incase.

Keep in mind you can alter the surface to give the ball some surface and make it less skid snappy. Like the Evil Siege out of the box is very smooth and not real jumpy on the backends. Or you can shine it up and have that normal pearlized skid snap reaction.


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Laniarty

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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 03:44:27 AM »
I might try taking the surfaces down to 1000 and see how that goes, polish from there. Just reading the responses I thought it could be that all of my pearl ball layouts are long pin to pap lengths, 5''+ on all. Maybe the longer pin to paps combined with the longer coverstocks is giving me an iffy look.

Are all pearls meant to give a skid/snap look? I love an arcy roll and the solids seem to do that a lot better.
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lenstanles703

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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 05:59:58 AM »
Pearl ball with arcy roll? I suggest the Visionary Ogre Pearl.
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 06:11:34 AM »
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I might try taking the surfaces down to 1000 and see how that goes, polish from there. Just reading the responses I thought it could be that all of my pearl ball layouts are long pin to pap lengths, 5''+ on all. Maybe the longer pin to paps combined with the longer coverstocks is giving me an iffy look.

Are all pearls meant to give a skid/snap look? I love an arcy roll and the solids seem to do that a lot better.



I think that is part of it as well. I love drilling them on more aggressive patterns to get them in a roll sooner. 4" pin to pap and leverage patterns roll great. They still clear the heads fine because of the cover, but get into a strong roll and aren't nearly as skittish on their backend finish.
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2010, 06:22:28 AM »
On a standard THS I score better with pearls.  I normally will throw a ball in it's oob surface first to see what it does, but mot of the time with pearls I scuff off the polish.  I had a big set with my Rattler out of the box with the polish on it, but still knocked the polish off afterwards because the house I bowl in normally has a heavier volume.

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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2010, 07:12:07 AM »
I often prefer polished solids over pearls when I need length. I just seem to get a more consistant and readable reaction.
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 07:36:43 AM »
It may not be the pearl that is the problem. it could be the RG is to high and the ball may being going to far down the lane for you. I have a tendency to buy ball balls that have an RG below 2.5 if possible allows me to throw quicker and still have recovery
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 08:28:13 AM »
I think this is an interesting topic, as I too have pretty much migrated completely away from pearl coverstocks and replaced them with polished solids. I have taken some of my pearls and modified their finishes to 1000-2000 as also mentioned above...

I have all of the same problems as described over/under being the worst response issue.

My take on the problems that I personally see is that I am the problem, not the ball. I have a problem with release consistency that is exaggerated by the violent reaction of a polished pearl coverstock. Therefore, I am working on my hand positions and release consistency diligently. I am also trying to make sure that if I think a pearl is the appropriate choice, that I do not get around the side of the ball at release, which makes everything worse. A polished pearl coverstock typically requires very god accuracy at the breakpoint to have good results.

Of course, this is only my opinion about my problem. Good luck with it and I'll be watching this thread to see what other suggestions come up!

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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 08:49:38 AM »
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..I have all of the same problems as described over/under being the worst response issue.

My take on the problems that I personally see is that I am the problem, not the ball. I have a problem with release consistency that is exaggerated by the violent reaction of a polished pearl coverstock.
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2010, 09:37:07 AM »
I full agree Charlest hopefully in identifying my own propensity to a flawed release will allow me to move forward with some level of reconciliation to achieve better scores in spite of myself as I improve.
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2010, 10:04:31 AM »
I think it depends on your form and style. I prefer pearls in their OOB state. I've shot both of my 300s with pearls. One with the Total NV and one with the Evil Siege.
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Re: Does anyone else just not score well with pearls?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2010, 11:42:21 AM »
I understand what your frustrations, and until I got a Heist Pearl I struggled throwing several different pearls as they usually made a hard left hand turn off of the dry.  The Heist Pearl for me make a smooth controlled move which has allowed me to play more consistently on shorter, lower volume oil patterns.  I know that there are other pearls out that can be adjusted as well to give you this type of reaction.

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