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strikestriketapped

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Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« on: April 17, 2011, 07:36:47 AM »
I'm a stroker, around 275-300 RPM and 15 MPH ball speed. I have some high end pieces such as the Infinite Theory, Victory Road, Taboo, etc. However, I find a lot of the high performance balls to hook just too much and are often times over/under. I bowl 2 house shot leagues. One is second shift and the other is oiled on top of whatever is out there.

 
 
I have found that I use mainly my Onyx Vibe, Tropical Heat Hybrid, Mars, and Natural. I never need anything stronger than my Onyx at 4.5 pin to PAP and 4000 abralon. I know I would need something stronger for sport shots or PBA patterns (bowled a PBA league last season), but do any of you only use mid and "low" performance balls on house shots? If so, what do you use?

 
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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 04:10:33 PM »
It's really not all that surprising at all to find many higher average league bowlers using exclusively "medium" or "low" end performance balls.  I can get away with using my Columbia Freeze most nights and even it is too strong by the end of a 4 game shift.  Medium performance equipment usually matches up better on the typically light house patterns because they create just the right amount of friction up front to have a consistent backend move.  When a ball creates too much friction up front, it will not store as much energy on the backends.  Then sometimes with these heavy oil balls, you will be forced to push it through the heads, giving you a complete under-reaction.  That gets old... 
Actually, my Columbia Freeze is the strongest ball in the bag.  To give you an idea of what else is in the bag, I have a Burst and Midnight Vibe as well.  


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 07:38:54 PM »
Tropical Heat Hybrid!  Great piece!  Can find a line when no other ball finds consistent reaction from shot to shot.  It allows me to see the difference between a pair!
 
I've recommended it to several friends looking at stronger balls; they just can't allow themselves to spend less money for a solution....



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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 07:57:42 PM »
My HP ball of choice has been the Wicked Siege. Because of how clean it is through the heads, and how forgiving it is with surface adjustments.
 
Besides that everything else falls in the mid performance range or less because I can get in three good games on a THS without making drastic moves. Even in tournaments the aggressive stuff never gets out of the bag. Usually it is the lower rev players I see that really get a lot of use out of the more aggressive equipment.


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 08:24:57 PM »
I only have one high performanceball (original Ebonite Mission)  in my bag.

 

The other three balls are the Ebonite Game On, Brunswick Forest Green Quantum and Lane 1 Red XXXL.


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 08:25:21 PM »
i've only been using my natural and ogre urethane last 1/2 of the year..our city record this yr,889 was thrown with a burgandy hammer.


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 08:31:58 PM »
The highest performance ball that is in my bag is a Hammer Brawl, and I rarely found enough oil to use that the second half of the season. My midnight Vibe, and Motiv Recon pearl have seen a lot more use.



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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 06:33:11 AM »
Depending on the time of year, I've had to throw different equipment in league. During the middle of the winter, when there seemed to be more friction front to back in general, I spent a lot of time throwing my Tropical Heat, and on occasion even had to throw my Natural. As the weather warmed, the shot has been adjusted to put down a higher volume of oil, and I've been using my Cell and Anarchy to great success (and I even got to throw my Nano I just punched up all three games in league Thursday!), and I haven't been able to get anything weaker to turn the corner unless I get them waaay out to the ditch, but the pattern is a little too long for my release from that far out and I can't get the right angle to carry from that spot.



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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 08:20:49 AM »
Right before I broke my arm, I had pared my bag down to:

 

1. Heavy oil = Hammer ANGER with polish applied over the OOB

2. THS = Seismic EUPHORIA at OOB finish

3. Dry = Roto Grip Grenade with OOB finish lightly scuffed with green scotchbrite.

 

 If you get any early rolling motion on the ball here at all, you can't use anything aggressive. The only people using the high performance balls are people who either have 5 revolutions or throw the ball 25 mph.

 A normal 15-16 mph, 300 revs person can't harldy use anything above a FREEZE or VIBE unless you want to cover all 40 boards.
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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 08:33:21 AM »
Good topic here.

 

I use a weakly drilled Virtual Gravity (Pin above fingers - about 5 inches from my PAP) then almost without fail can switch to a Twisted Fury (Pin above, 4.5 inches) after only one game and almost immediately it will cover more boards - a sure sign the VG has started to burn up early. 

 

I see a lot of slower speed players throwing unpolished solid cover bowling balls in the 16-17 MPH range and going over the second arrow on a THS to do it.  It is a pretty good recipe for leaving 10 pins.



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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 08:54:59 AM »
 I can understand the need for some people throwing stronger balls. I bowled at a house last year that lays out a lot of oil for their house shot and I had to use my Revolver and Taboo. However, most house shots I've seen just don't require it. In my Tuesday night league I usually start off standing on 25 and get the ball out to about 7 or so with my Onyx Vibe. If I stick with that ball I will end up standing on 40 by night's end because of how thin the oil is. I attribute a lot of my struggles to trying to cover too many boards and swing the whole lane which isn't my style. I think a lot of people would benefit from weaker balls.


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 10:56:24 AM »
I used a Slingshot for 10 weeks of this season. Just one ball.



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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 11:38:00 AM »
I have two high performance balls a Alpha-Max and a 715T...or a Mid High Performance ball.I perfer to use my 300 C more then anything because I can just score the same with my low performance stuff and I don't kill the cover on my high performance. So I rather use the low end stuff more.


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 01:57:49 PM »
The three strongest balls in my bag are my Theory, a rico-drilled VG, and my Project-X.

 

I did get to throw my Theory for a 300 game during the middle of the season when they suddenly went to medium heavy oil, but other than that, I generally use med-lite oil balls for almost all my league shots. I bowl in four different leagues. All different levels of oil volume.

 

My normal arsenal is a Supersonic, an Ultra-Sonic, and a Riot or Sonic-X, depending on the house. So yeah, I have  quite a few Hp balls that only see action when I go to tournaments.


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Re: Does anyone NOT use high performance?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 02:56:37 PM »
Is the Break Out even considered high performance anymore?  That's about the strongest ball that I can get away with.  I'm at about your speed, but with less revs.  I don't have the speed or the revs to play deeper than about 15, and the stronger stuff just moves too early on our short THS.  I can get away with a Big Heist for the first game, but recently I've just been using a Lunatic for all 3 games.