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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Mighty Fish on September 09, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
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My area's largest newspaper has added yet another column to its sports section, but is there any justification to add a column about these activities while continuing to totally ignore bowling coverage?
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-h-t-sports-column-to-include-cycling-rowing-fitness-but-still-no-bowling?cid=db_articles
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Groundhog Day!
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Maybe they just don't like the guy who writes the Bowling column.
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Maybe they just don't like the guy who writes the Bowling column.
Dear milorafferty:
Perhaps you're right. The last Herald-Tribune newspaper bowling columnist was Jason Swancey, and in my opinion, he didn't do a very good job.
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Groundhog Day!
Dear jorge300:
Indeed. Because Groundhog Day may be considered a situation in which a series of unwelcome or tedious events appear to be recurring in exactly the same way, it might be considered -- if you care about bowling at all -- that another unwelcome column is recurring in exactly the same way (with no bowling coverage on the horizon).
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Yea, I'm sure that's the problem. ::)
Jason messed it up for everyone. That has to be the reason. :o
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Yes as a whole those activities generate more interest then bowling alone.
The only question is simply is there enough outcry for bowling that the paper brings it back? I'd say your continued post will still say no. Simply no, is my answer.
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Yes as a whole those activities generate more interest then bowling alone.
The only question is simply is there enough outcry for bowling that the paper brings it back? I'd say your continued post will still say no. Simply no, is my answer.
Dear kidlost2000:
For sake of argument, assuming your contention with regard to bowling is right on the mark, do you seriously think that the newspaper has received "enough outcry" for coverage of Supercross racing, rowing, trianthlons, marathon running, etc.?
Keep in mind that this area contains one of the very highest per capita age groups in the nation, and a lot of them do bowl, although much of that bowling is done in non-USBC-certified competition.
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Get back to us when shuffleboard has it's own column.
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I can only imagine with the number of newspapers going under and losing subscribers by the car load I'd imagine anything to save subscriptions or grow them would be welcome.
Lots of seniors enjoying bowling doesn't translate to them wanting to read about it. That could be the larger factor. That leaves you searching for something people will want to read about.
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I can only imagine with the number of newspapers going under and losing subscribers by the car load I'd imagine anything to save subscriptions or grow them would be welcome.
... and as you indirectly imply, bowling is in the process of "going under" as well.
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Not implied at all. Just because you do not wish to read about bowling or watch it on tv has no correlation to people participating in bowling.
That's the argument/mistake people make for the downfall of competitive bowling. Competitive bowling numbers do not reflect open bowlers participation. Same game different environments.
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Get back to us when shuffleboard has it's own column.
Dear milorafferty:
I wouldn't be surprised if that would happen, but you bring up an interesting point. With the aging population in my area, shuffleboard is a frequent activity for many senior citizens, but to my knowledge, there has never been an area newspaper column on shuffleboard. There are certainly a lot more shuffleboarders than triathletes or Supercross racers.
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There is your new career then, brush up on the rules and you're all set.
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People still read newspapers?
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I can only imagine with the number of newspapers going under and losing subscribers by the car load I'd imagine anything to save subscriptions or grow them would be welcome.
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There is your new career then, brush up on the rules and you're all set.
Dear milorafferty:
I'm not looking for a new career. I'm perfectly happy in retirement, along with writing Internet columns on bowling and oldies pop music. But thanks for your concern.
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I can only imagine with the number of newspapers going under and losing subscribers by the car load I'd imagine anything to save subscriptions or grow them would be welcome.
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... so are you indicating that articles about Supercross or rowing will accomplish that, even if articles about bowling wouldn't?
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I can only imagine with the number of newspapers going under and losing subscribers by the car load I'd imagine anything to save subscriptions or grow them would be welcome.
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... so are you indicating that articles about Supercross or rowing will accomplish that, even if articles about bowling wouldn't?
To quote the dude on BBE, "Newspapers have marketing departments. They print what people want to see. They're just like any other company, they adapt to the needs of the consumer. So, the lack of any bowling coverage is a direct sign of the lack of interest in one. It's not like they're randomly deciding what to put in the newspaper. The fact that they ARE printing articles about cycling/rowing etc is all the proof you need that it deserves a spot over bowling. It's not that hard to understand..."
Enough said. No need to play 30 questions......^^^^ solves it.
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Are those the same marketing people who pushed client advertising money into golf in the 70's despite much higher viewer ratings for bowling.
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Are those the same marketing people who pushed client advertising money into golf in the 70's despite much higher viewer ratings for bowling.
One thing you have to realize is the people watching bowling versus those watching golf. Golf has always been a more upscale sport compared to bowling. Country club versus smoke filled bowling centers. Those who watch golf have more disposable income and thus the advertising is probably a little more successful, even if viewership is smaller.
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Maybe if you partnered w/Jenny Scordamaglia to go on interviews with you at some bowling establishments you could "generate" a little more interest in bowling down there... ;) :P
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The more upscale income is always the argument, but the truth is that is the upscale boardroom CEO's who make the decision where to spend advertising money. I have been in in the boardroom of NYSE corporations, and watched those guys routinely make spending decisions that are either ill advised or based on personal prejudices. Best example is most of the mergers that have taken place over the past 20 years. Investment bankers and lawyers are the ones pushing the mergers, and the record shows they are the only ones who make any money off about 80% of those deals.
Didn't mean to digress off into such non bowling stuff, but nobody should ever forget that the game of bowling, unlike golf was not born in the US with a silver spoon in its mouth, and the game has paid that price at the upper levels for its entire modern existence. The CEOs of big potential sponsors have always preferred to sit in a green side booth outside the country club waiting to hand out winners checks, than sit in the temporary stands of a smoke filled bowling center watching the action.
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why put bowling in a newspaper that people are not reading? How will it help the sport? How will it grow the sport? If you want bowling to be seen by more people I would recommend the internet.
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The fact that they ARE printing articles about cycling/rowing etc is all the proof you need that it deserves a spot over bowling. It's not that hard to understand[/b]..."[/i]
... so if a newspaper prints Krauthammer editorials and ignores Krugman editorials, does that mean that Krauthammer "deserves" priority?
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If you want bowling to be seen by more people I would recommend the internet.
Dear mainzer:
You've got that right.
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Thanks for the comments, which tend to indicate that perhaps there is little valid justification for newspaper bowling coverage.
Part of the reason for my posting of such columns is to elicit reactions, and your comments would (or should) hold more validity than a general public consensus, because nearly all of you are involved with the game of bowling in one manner or another.
At some time in the near future, I will be writing a column that will indicate that many bowlers are apparently unconcerned by lack of newspaper coverage, and comments in this thread (and others) will be used in such column.
Your comments lean toward a conclusion that, perhaps, bowling doesn't deserve newspaper coverage, or perhaps coverage in any media venues(s).
But having said that, I'll never believe there is ANY JUSTIFICATION for printing local golf scores on a daily basis while totally ignoring local bowling scores -- even when such things as perfect games and 800-plus series are rolled by local bowlers.
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