Post by: TheProphet on March 31, 2008, 02:26:06 AM
Post by: NicholasE on March 31, 2008, 10:35:11 AM
I would work on just that the next time you practice, if you think its hurting your game. I wouldn't worry about score or anything just that, if you really need to change it.
Some people drift and are aware of it and know how much they will drift and compensate for it. Some drift and are unaware and don't understand why the ball is not dropped in the same area. For me, I drift if I need to but thats just around the ball returns and things, not usually when I'm not near the return.
Drifting is ok as long as you know your doing and how much your drifting and that its consistently the same. Now if one time you drift 3 boards then the next time you drift 7 boards with the intentions of releasing the ball in the same spot, then you need to correct it but if you drift 3 boards everytime, you can just compensate for it with your starting spot when you need to move.
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Post by: JMORRIS on March 31, 2008, 10:49:14 AM
I line up my feet, I look at the foul line to get my slide target, then I look out on the lane at my shot target and go.
This helps me walk straight and keeps me open or square, depending on how I'm playing the lanes.
Jermey
Post by: NicholasE on March 31, 2008, 10:57:29 AM
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Post by: TheProphet on March 31, 2008, 11:10:26 AM
Looking at the line and then throwing your shot would kind of kill your timing wouldn't it?
Post by: NicholasE on March 31, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
Just find something to focus on the approach and while doing your usual ball release just watch your feet, don't worry about the pins or anything just try to watch your feet and make them go in a straight line. After doing this for a while your muscels will memorize this and it will become much more easy to do without even thinking about it.
right now your muscels have memorized the steps you take now and thats just what feels natural to you so your going to have to really focus on it to change it and be like a natural approach on the lanes. Otherwise you will slip back into the old ways of drifting.
This is just experiences that I've had with different things and how I would correct them. This may not work for anyone else but its the best way for me.
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Post by: MC on March 31, 2008, 11:37:54 AM
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Post by: strikealot on March 31, 2008, 11:37:59 AM
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Post by: NicholasE on March 31, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
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i believe straighter players walk straighter while crankers walk left more...the drift frees up the arm swing some..as long as you drift the same everytime and allow for it is really doesnt matter...i drift 5 boards left..when playing deep i dont worry about it.when playing the gutter i really concentrate on walking straighter..i dont know the name of the system but i read about it on here where lets say i walk 5 boards left and most people release the ball 7 boards away from their ankle..so to throw the ball up 10 i would need to stand on 12..my magic number is 2..(7 minus the drift which is 5)7-5=2..add 2 to the target(10), this puts me standing on 12 to allow for the drift and 7 boards away from ankle..to open the lane up say from 14 to 10 use the same setup..my number is 2 so add 2 to the target(14) plus the 4 boards(14-10) you wish to cover..so 14(target) plus 2(magic number) plus 4(diff in boards covering)=20.....so i would stand on 20 look at 14 and my break pt should be 10...if i havent confused you enough by now oh well..
ummmm...what? lol jk I know where your coming from and how hard it is to explain on the internet. Something that seems easy in your head but when you write it out, its like a very long process to someone new...
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Post by: strikealot on March 31, 2008, 12:33:24 PM
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Post by: baltimora on March 31, 2008, 12:39:53 PM
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Post by: tenpin477 on March 31, 2008, 01:56:55 PM
The first Reply put it very well
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Post by: bowlitup on March 31, 2008, 04:52:00 PM
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Post by: EdKramarcak on March 31, 2008, 08:39:16 PM
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Well, I'm no where near being a coach
AGREED
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Post by: TheProphet on April 02, 2008, 10:40:26 AM
Post by: NicholasE on April 02, 2008, 10:44:45 AM
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Well, I'm no where near being a coach
AGREED
Well look who it is...its a PBA membuh, with his 4 or was that 5 or was that 6 step approach...haha your a joke...
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Post by: BowlingWolf on April 02, 2008, 10:56:29 AM
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Well, I'm no where near being a coach
AGREED
Well look who it is...its a PBA membuh, with his 4 or was that 5 or was that 6 step approach...haha your a joke...
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Post by: Scolai on April 02, 2008, 11:18:36 AM
(I appreciate it, Ron!) What I think I was doing when I developed the problem at its origin was trying to keep the target consistent in my line of sight. The closer you get to the target, the more inside it appears to the eye. By stepping out (away from the target), I was keeping the target in the same alignment in my visual space.Thus, what I had wasn't really a drift; it was more of a step-out on my 3rd step (5-step approach). My 3rd step was pretty long and 5 boards right (as a lefty). Ron moved me up on the approach to the 2nd row of dots. The result was that I now take shorter steps. Shorter steps wouldn't allow me to take a big step right, bringing my 5-board drift down to just 1 or 2 boards. A little practice and I eliminated those 1-2 boards all together.
Those who say, "drift doesn't matter as long as you do it consistently" have obviously never tried to play the twig on Cheetah pattern.
To get rid of your drift:
1 - Get a video of yourself.
2 - determine whether the drift occurs over several steps or in just one step
3 - work with a qualified coach who can help you fix the source of the problem
4 - practice, practice, practice
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Post by: Beaker300 on April 02, 2008, 11:21:50 AM
Post by: NicholasE on April 02, 2008, 11:33:54 AM
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Those who say, "drift doesn't matter as long as you do it consistently" have obviously never tried to play the twig on Cheetah pattern.
Well not always, if your a drifter in the first place your probably not a stroker kind of player. Now if your wanting to play up 5 which is extreamly difficult even if your not a drifter then you will definently have a problem. lol I usually have to swing the cheetah. When I try to play farther right then the 8 board, I tend to get nervous and pull shots trying to avoid throwing it in the gutter.
BTW I like the tape idea that one person mentioned. That would be helpful as well I think.
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Post by: EdKramarcak on April 02, 2008, 11:36:42 AM
quote:quote:quote:
Well, I'm no where near being a coach
AGREED
Well look who it is...its a PBA membuh, with his 4 or was that 5 or was that 6 step approach...haha your a joke...
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Post by: NicholasE on April 02, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
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Anytime, anywhere, any pattern, any amount......
Ok, how about tonight? Strikers bowling Center in rock hill, SC. During my practice from 9-12am. See you there??
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Edited on 4/2/2008 11:42 AM
Post by: Beaker300 on April 02, 2008, 01:32:03 PM
Edited on 4/2/2008 1:33 PM
Post by: EdKramarcak on April 02, 2008, 03:35:03 PM
NOT PRETENDING!
quote:quote:
Anytime, anywhere, any pattern, any amount......
Ok, how about tonight? Strikers bowling Center in rock hill, SC. During my practice from 9-12am. See you there??
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Edited on 4/2/2008 11:42 AM
Post by: NicholasE on April 02, 2008, 04:20:13 PM
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Sorry, I will be drilling balls and coaching.....
NOT PRETENDING!
Well what a shame...talk trash and then come up with a lame excuse not to bowl...darn. I mean I'm sure one of you staff membuhs would cover for you so you can come show me up and all. But its ok, I understand, customers first. Hey anytime though, you know where I bowl.
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Post by: EdKramarcak on April 02, 2008, 04:42:03 PM
DOH
Post by: NicholasE on April 02, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^
DOH
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Post by: DukeHarding on April 02, 2008, 05:00:21 PM
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Sorry, I will be drilling balls and coaching.....
NOT PRETENDING!
Ed,
Please fill in your profile, so we know who you are?
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Post by: NicholasE on April 02, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
From there you will learn how to do what he calls a five step approach but you will notice that he starts with his left foot and him being right handed would put him at a 4 step approach, but in the video he stops on his slide foot and adds a 5 in there. Its quite funny that one, he did it in the first place, two he thinks he knows what hes doing, and three he didn't edit it, didn't admit that he was wrong and posted the video anyways!!
Not to mention hes a internet trash talker, one of the guys who comes on here and bashes people every chance he gets and never helps. Guy is a joke..
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Post by: DukeHarding on April 02, 2008, 06:14:01 PM
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Ahh thats Edward Kramarcak from rip the rack pro shop located in FL. You can find his videos on how to become a better bowler at expertvillage.com.
From there you will learn how to do what he calls a five step approach but you will notice that he starts with his left foot and him being right handed would put him at a 4 step approach, but in the video he stops on his slide foot and adds a 5 in there. Its quite funny that one, he did it in the first place, two he thinks he knows what hes doing, and three he didn't edit it, didn't admit that he was wrong and posted the video anyways!!
Not to mention hes a internet trash talker, one of the guys who comes on here and bashes people every chance he gets and never helps. Guy is a joke..
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NicholasE,
I know who he
is...the smiley ...
...in my re: to him.I really don't think the poster on here and "the" Ed Kramarcak are one in the same...
BEING ON TOPIC:
You can borrow a bar stool and place it at foul line (w/the house's permission, of course), 2 boards from where your slide foot SHULD BE ending...
I guarantee you will never hit the chair...take it away and you will not drift is far... if you get my drift...couldn't resist!
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