Author Topic: Lane conditions- Why they change SO much? (Read 1844 times)

Juggernaut · « **on:** May 17, 2009, 11:42:41 AM »

Maybe I'm just remembering the "old" days, or maybe I'm just hoping for something that won't happen, but is there ANY way to make the shot hold up for a full three game set with a five man team?

Back "in the day", the shot may not have been as good as it can be today, but whatever it was seemed to stay for the whole set. You could get your feet set in the correct spot, find your correct target, and with the exception of minor adjustments, play that shot ALL NIGHT.

Now days, it seems that you need a different ball for each game of the set, just to be able to compete. One drilled for slick heads and hard backends, one for transitioning heads, and one for dry heads with a touch of carrydown.

Is there any way to condition lanes to make the shot stay for any reasonable length of time, or is this a condition that we are just going to have to live with from now on?

And, before you guys go telling me about adjusting, adjusting isn't what this is about. If the lanes only changed enough to need adjustment, I would have no complaint. What I am talking about is going from having your feet on 18 and playing the 8 board with a small hook the first game, to having your feet close to ( or past ) 40 playing the third arrow on the opposite side of the lane, all while trying to use the same ball.

Is this type of breakdown normal, or am I experiencing extreme conditional changes?
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pin-chaser · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:59:35 AM »

I faced the same issue all year long at one specific house. TOOOOO MUCH OIL inside of 10 and tooo little oil outside of 10. So I start the ball 12 and use 9-8-7 as my break point and all is well. But my team mates are playing deeper than me and when my shot breaks down and I move left there is little for me to move to. I have my son playing 15 to 9-8-7 and 2 other guys playing 18 to 9-8-7 and one guy (two handed) playing 20 to 9-8-7. Of course then there is the other team that typically plays where I play or even right of me and playing the edge.

All season long I struggle to find a ball or angle that allows me to find other reactions that work. I drilled 4 balls for this league this season. While it is nice to have great bowlers on your team with todays game, when you dont have that game it is not so nice.

What I find out that worked for me well after not finding anything equipement that solved the issue was really simple in the end. Of course I did not figure it out until the last 1/3 of the season... was to drop down a couple ball strengths and move to a polished surface. Move my feet right, square up to the pocket and use a release that is more end over end.

So, I look like a good strong player hooking the ball the first game or so and then by the end of the night I look like walter ray going straighter. And when I do this I find I have more area on the lane since everyone is looking at 8 at the break point and I am looking at 10 and 11. I have hold and send.

You could try this strategy.

azus · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2009, 10:08:47 AM »

Buy a urethane ball, they will not absorb the oil just puch it down the lane. And you will be albe to play in the dry spot of the lanes all night,
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JohnP · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2009, 10:51:38 AM »

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I guess one can always dream, huh? I would like to ban them, not because of the scores, but because of exactly the fact you mention.

Juggernaut -- You asked if there was ANY way, not if there was a realistic way. I was trying to subtly point out that it's the bowlers causing the problem and then complaining about it. When facing a team using sponge balls, and especially with high revs bowlers using them, I've had best success by using a weaker ball (Red Zone to Energy to Dry/R to urethane, in order) and playing inside of the sponges, using their dry area as a bumper. The leagues I bowl in are 3 man, so it's easier than 5 man. -- JohnP

Juggernaut · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2009, 01:50:17 PM »

O.K., here goes an attempt to "clarify" this so that even the smallest minds can grasp the concept.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT "ME"! This is a question about lane conditions in general.

"I" am not "complaining" about "my shot" being messed up. The "complaint" was about HOW MUCH they seem to change, and even then, all I was asking was if there was a way to make them more stable to hold up longer.

Several responders to this thread have taken it upon themselves to attempt to berate me personally, my talent level ( which is totally unknown to them ), and ridicule my question. I guess with so many people these days being both presumptuous AND immature, this was inevitable.

To those who have nothing to contribute, I salute you. You have now, unmistakably, shown yourselves to be the buffoons that you were suspected of being.

I have spent 27 years learning, honing, and re-learning the sport of bowling because I love it. I have spent many hours helping new bowlers learn the basics of the game enough to get them to join leagues and become lovers of the sport as well.

I remember a time when bowling was growing, not dying. I have a great respect for the game and the players that came before. The names Don Carter, Dick Weber, Earl Anthony, Andy Varipapa, Carmen Salvino, and Allie Brandt MEAN something to me, just as Walter Ray Williams, Wes Mallott, and Pete Weber do today.

I truly am sorry that there are those among us who seek to ridicule that which they don't understand and those whom they don't know. I have little, if any, use for these types of people, and rarely waste my time with them.

To those of you who found time to constructively respond to this thread, THANK YOU.

To the rest of you, post elsewhere if you like, this thread will be locked.
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2009, 01:53:30 PM »

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juggs deleted his rant reply. Whatever...
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Yes, I did. The "rant" was uncalled for and inappropriate. I apologize for your having read it and for what it said.
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