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Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:19:18 AM »
I've been seeing more posts lately about how somebody wants to keep a plastic ball from hooking.Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?

Bowlers are looking for some super polish to put on it or some exotic ball layout that will force it to go straight no matter how its thrown or the lane condition. Or the old chestnut "What plastic ball has the hardest D rating?"

Can't anybody stop cranking the ball? Break the wrist back and roll it end over end? to shoot that ten pin?

Then if you think about it, if  the lanes are so dry the plastic ball hooks. Why are they using some hook monster to shoot strikes on the same lanes because the others don't hook enough.
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Re: Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2010, 11:20:28 AM »
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When it comes to shooting spares, there always seems to be 2 different theories:

1)  learn how to break your wrist and throw the ball differently, or

2)  shoot all spares with a plastic ball.  Throw it hard and fast because plastic doesn't hook.  It's better to use a spare ball that way you can use your "normal release" and be more consistent.


So, which is it?




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Re: Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2010, 12:57:41 PM »
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When it comes to shooting spares, there always seems to be 2 different theories:

1)  learn how to break your wrist and throw the ball differently, or

2)  shoot all spares with a plastic ball.  Throw it hard and fast because plastic doesn't hook.  It's better to use a spare ball that way you can use your "normal release" and be more consistent.


So, which is it?




Should be a combination of the two. learn how to break your wrist and use a plastic ball.

A question to ask is why when attempting to throw a  straight ball at say a 10 pin, would you use the same release that was meant to make a ball hook?

The thing I was seeing was all the bowlers who are using plastic balls and complaining that they hook too much.

Which says to to me the "throw it the sameway, just throw it harder" method doesnt work that well.

plus theres things like what happens after youve been bowling a big block of games and you can't throw that 25mph ball at the 10 anymore?







Right, but that's my point.  Even during the PBA telecasts you'll hear the announcers saying that the bowlers are using plastic because it doesn't hook.


Articles:

http://www.bowlingball.com/info/Article_Making_Spares.html

 
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The other option which I myself use it to throw a plastic ball at your spares. (I do not use this for double wood spares) Using a plastic ball takes the lane out of play. The ball should not hook at all or very little. This allows you to line up straight to your spare and throw right at it.


http://www.improvebowling.com/bowl200game.html

 
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It is most effective to use a ball that is made specifically for picking up spares professionals call it a spare ball. Spare balls are most commonly plastic, because plastic balls have the tendency to go straighter than regular bowling balls.

When trying to pick up a spare, it is best to straighten the wrist as much as possible. Relaxing the wrist during the release is most effective, and is a key part of picking up spares.

 



http://ezinearticles.com/?Tuning-Up-Your-Bowling-Technique---Picking-Up-Spares&id=661931

 
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Professional bowlers use a "spare ball". That being a regular, plastic ball they use solely for the purpose of picking up their spares.

Even if you have your own ball, try using one of the regular, plain-colored, plastic "house" balls to pick up your spares. They are drilled to roll perfectly straight, enabling you to better hit your target.

 




I'm not saying all these articles are accurate, I'm just saying that so many people just go around saying "plastic doesn't hook."

I started out just using my strike ball for spares, and just adjusting my target and release.  Then you read books that say that isn't the best way because it may work on a THS, but on different patterns you don't know how you're ball will react - there may be more (or less) oil in the middle, and the ball will over/under react.  So, just use plastic because it takes the conditions out of play.

I tried that and found that my plastic ball would tend to jump/squirt at the pin deck and I was missing single pin spares - totally my fault since you already have a large margin of error, but still not what I expected since "plastic balls don't hook."


So, yes, you are correct in the OP, that just learn to break your wrist and throw straighter.  And, sure, go ahead and use a plastic ball if that's what you're comfortable with, because it does help take the lane conditions out of play....for the most part.

I think the problem is that a lot of THS make it easier to plastic balls to hook.....when thrown with a hook type of release.  Any time you have friction, a ball is going to hook, and with a THS, that's generally anywhere outside of 10, and after 35'.

So, you have conditions that are conducive for balls to hook, and a notion that certain balls can't be made to hook, so people just expect plastic to go straight.

Hard to imagine that people would actually be expected to learn how their equipment reacts or how to make adjustments.  


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Re: Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2010, 01:52:25 PM »

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plus theres things like what happens after youve been bowling a big block of games and you can't throw that 25mph ball at the 10 anymore?
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It is not about forcing it to that speed. Timing and leg power creat ball speed. and not everyone has to throw it that hard anyway.
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Re: Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2010, 02:37:59 PM »
It''s not hard for me.  I throw one for right side spares only.  Depending on the lane conditions, I usually throw it just like my 1st ball release.  If I see it''s too much, which isn''t often, I''ll use the suitcase release.
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Re: Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2010, 09:15:55 AM »
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When it comes to shooting spares, there always seems to be 2 different theories:

1)  learn how to break your wrist and throw the ball differently, or

2)  shoot all spares with a plastic ball.  Throw it hard and fast because plastic doesn''t hook.  It''s better to use a spare ball that way you can use your "normal release" and be more consistent.


So, which is it?




Both! Just to be sure...

And, by the way, I personally use an Ice Storm, with a 4.000 grit surface plus a coat of boat hull rubbing compound, which contains lots of wax for a marble shine and really low traction. Add a full roller release, and I cannot imagine anithing straighter, except for the ball being shot with a cannon...
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Re: Why has it become so hard to throw a plastic ball straight?
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2010, 09:36:08 AM »
Ive actually been working on throwing a backup ball at the 7 and seem to be doing fairly well with it.
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