do use a relaxed finger tip grip or the normal finger tip grip?
I use a relaxed not very relaxed but it is considered relaxed, my fingers only go to the first knuckles but the span to the thumb isn't as long as it could be. I have never been totally comfortable with a regular finger tip grip and I don't need to carry a spare ball around with the relaxed set up cause it is easier to break my wrist.
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