Author Topic: Drill your own ball at home (Read 6453 times)

kmtproshop · « **on:** June 26, 2010, 12:24:14 AM »

The KMT Personal Ball Jig web site is now complete, www.kmtballjig.com , and is being sold exclusively at Bowlers Paradise, http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/kmtballjig.aspx . It has also been endorsed by Elite Bowling International. Here's what they say:

"To be honest I was very skeptical, but I wanted to see it. I was impressed with the quality when I pulled it out of the box. You've obviously got some time and money into the R&D of this to get it to where it is at. As I told the other guy who drills in our shop, I'd use it if I didn't have access to a press. The holes are unbelievably good. They came out as good as the holes that we pilot on the mill."
Elite Bowling International

Questions can be sent to kmtproshop@hotmail.com .

Steve Zoeller

glssmn2001 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 27, 2010, 10:18:02 AM »

Most bowler use thumb slugs or interchangeable inserts and you offer nothing to these bowlers. You promote this product to bowlers who know what they are doing, but these are everyday bowling essentials that you overlooked I presume. You have me wondering if you know what you are doing or is this your get rich quick attempt to take advantage of those bowlers with less knowledge.

This "thing" is junk and no person with any pride in their game or anybody in their right mind is going to buy. Take your whole, what is it, 12 years experience and try again.......

kmtproshop · « **Reply #17 on:** June 27, 2010, 10:24:08 AM »

You presumed wrong. Drill bit sizes from 13/16" to 1-1/2" are available to cover all size slugs and interchangeable grips.

themagician · « **Reply #18 on:** June 27, 2010, 10:27:51 AM »

So you have to work everything out by hand to get the desired shape of the whole, thats nice for the people who don''t use insets of any kind.

I''ll stick to going to my proshop and letting him mill my ovals and use his nice Press.
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pro shop guy · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2010, 11:34:16 AM »

This is a nice idea, but thats what it should be.....an idea. Some things you just might be a bit better off going the conventional way. Honestly...how many purchasers of this really 100% believe this is how you will be going about your bowling equiptment for the next 10 years? This will just reinforce the need for good pro shop people in the future.

Juggernaut · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2010, 12:01:50 PM »

Alright, here goes.

IF I had the spare cash, and I wanted to, I could buy this thing AND I could use it. It would, in the proper hands, do exactly what this man says it will.

ALL he claims is that it will, with the proper upper plate, allow you to accurately drill your own bowling balls at home.

He doesn't claim it makes oval holes. He doesn't claim it gives you knowledge of static weights. He also never claims that your ball will be "legal" after drilling. He assumes ( probably wrong to do so ) that only people who know EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING will be interested. This product is CLEARLY NOT for the amatuer to learn how to drill on, but for those who already know how to drill.

I know how to drill my stuff. I use 31/32 sized finger inserts and 1 1/4 OVAL thumb SLEEVES. I could drill my holes, sand the edges of the holes, drop in my sleeve and inserts, add some glue, and go bowling all in about an hour with this device.

C'mon fellas, give this guy a break. He had an idea, developed it, then decided to try and make a few bucks selling it. Isn't that what used to be called "The American Way", using your own ideas and ingenuity to make your own way in life?

NO, it won't replace your pro shop guy. NO, it won't work miracles, make you better, or julienne your fries, but it WILL do what he says it will.
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glssmn2001 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2010, 12:21:31 PM »

My problem is as with the American way every where you turn, "you have to buy that extra" You want to drill that pitch, thats extra. You want to drill that size hole, that is extra. Just like when you put a slug in and what do you cut it down with, hell we dont offer that.

By the time you order any extra, if you need them, on top of the jig, you could have drilled many a bowling ball. Myself, I could have my pro shop drill up to ten bowling balls before I equaled the cost of this thing.

Billy Mays could not have sold this crap to me and he sold everything........

Juggernaut · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2010, 12:48:59 PM »

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My problem is as with the American way every where you turn, "you have to buy that extra" You want to drill that pitch, thats extra. You want to drill that size hole, that is extra. Just like when you put a slug in and what do you cut it down with, hell we dont offer that.

By the time you order any extra, if you need them, on top of the jig, you could have drilled many a bowling ball. Myself, I could have my pro shop drill up to ten bowling balls before I equaled the cost of this thing.

Billy Mays could not have sold this crap to me and he sold everything........

You are absolutely right in many of your observations. I have done shop work since the 80's, and we used to cut down plugs with rasps and files, so I guess I still could. I still have some of those old rasps around here somewhere, so could still do it, if I wanted.

Yes, you could have quite a few balls drilled for the price of this thing, but that isn't counting the convenience this thing offers those who want it instead of having to make appointments and drivving to the shop. Now, you could just go out to the shop and do it yourself.

In my opinion, it is too expensive. I would like to have one to play with, because I am sure I could use it, but I'm not giving what they're asking for it.
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Cobalt Bomb · « **Reply #23 on:** June 27, 2010, 01:12:00 PM »

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It has a limited amount of people who will use it. It''s not going to make a huge splash in the internet bowling sales industry. There will be people who buy it, sure but its not going to become the replacement for the pro shop.

Like said before, you cant drill exotic and be sure its legal, you cant cut down plugs or slugs with it. Your limited in the amount of "pitch" options without either guessing or buying another plate. You only get a few drill bits, etc.

I''m just amazed that a pro shop owner would develop a product that takes business away from themselves and every other pro shop operator in the world, in hopes that their niche product makes more for them than actually being a pro shop operator.

I guess if they sell thousands of these, than they will have made it a successful product and made money.

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Of course, Darth is correct. Developing new products is the American way. Based on the pictures, I was impressed with the simplicity and the ingenuity. Anyway you look at at, it's a nice piece of work for what it is. I don't think anyone would deny that. Whether it will sell (or if people should buy it) is another question entirely. It seems to me that anyone who has enough knowledge to truly use this properly, would either save up enough to get a real setup used, or have a real shop do it for/with them.

glssmn2001 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 27, 2010, 01:19:44 PM »

All I can think of now is this.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptzgZEgROTE&feature=related

qstick777 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 27, 2010, 02:35:55 PM »

IIRC, somebody on here is using one of these as a ball jig on a standard drill press. I think it was also being used on a mill table jig - was around $100 at Sears.

When you look at it like that, for $400 you end up with 2 drill bits, a ball jig, and some layout and finishing tools.

I guess a secondary benefit is that it would then be portable.

It's not much different than the $900 ball jig from Innovative - http://www.shop.innovativebowling.com/product.sc?productId=647&categoryId=82

Zack Pelton300 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 27, 2010, 03:56:58 PM »

There is going to be a lot of blood
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EFFEN 10 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 27, 2010, 07:25:30 PM »

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IIRC, somebody on here is using one of these as a ball jig on a standard drill press. I think it was also being used on a mill table jig - was around $100 at Sears.

When you look at it like that, for $400 you end up with 2 drill bits, a ball jig, and some layout and finishing tools.

I guess a secondary benefit is that it would then be portable.

It's not much different than the $900 ball jig from Innovative - http://www.shop.innovativebowling.com/product.sc?productId=647&categoryId=82

Yes,that was me.I was looking for a relatively inexpensive jig for my "Basement Bowling Pro Shop".It is a quality made piece of equiptment.For what it's worth,prior to my mounting that jig on a mill table,I did drill an old ball using his method,checked the pitches, and it was fine.For about $750.00,I can pretty much drill any ball that a basic pro shop package can that costs $1700.00.
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