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kmtproshop

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Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« on: September 22, 2009, 02:21:32 AM »
New product release--drill your own ball at home with a hand held drill!  Watch video @ www.youtube.com/kmtproshop
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2009, 02:37:45 PM »
When I saw the title of this post I had a picture in my mind of some clown with a bowling ball in his lap and a hand drill and the bit slips and gets him in the leg , well I had a good laugh anyway
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2009, 02:45:11 PM »
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When I saw the title of this post I had a picture in my mind of some clown with a bowling ball in his lap and a hand drill and the bit slips and gets him in the leg , well I had a good laugh anyway
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Or somewhere else, like the beans or frank.....
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2009, 03:10:08 PM »
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I'm sorry, but you sir have made a complete mockery of the science and art of ball drilling.  You should be ashamed to bring a product of this ridiculousness to market and expect people to take it seriously.  Quite the disgrace.  Way to devolve the ball drilling profession 15 years.


 Wow, science and art of drilling? Devolving ball drilling 15 years?  Ashamed to bring a simple, new, innovative product to market for those who might be interested?  You're pretty harsh man, its just a simple drilling jig.

  All this thing is, is a device to stabilize the ball while adding a drillbit guide to allow for more accurate drilling of the holes. Isn't that all a $2000 drillpress and jig does?

 It doesn't replace drilling knowledge, and I WOULD NOT recommend it for use by a novice or beginner, but for someone who already knows how to drill, it could be a handy thing.

 The problem is, I don't see anyone spending $350 on something like this, especially when you can get a ball drilled at a full service shop for around $50.  You'd have to drill more than 7 balls to end up paying for this thing, because after the first ball, you have to buy more inserts from the shop anyways.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2009, 03:27:44 PM »
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I'm sorry, but you sir have made a complete mockery of the science and art of ball drilling.  You should be ashamed to bring a product of this ridiculousness to market and expect people to take it seriously.  Quite the disgrace.  Way to devolve the ball drilling profession 15 years.

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I'm assuming that you're a pro shop owner, and probably a bowler, so consider this....how many times have you been to an "out of town" tournament and had to buy a ball on site because you didn't bring the right one with you?  Then you have to have it drilled on site by someone you don't know.  This device fits into a briefcase and still leaves room for a cordless drill!  You could drill the new ball yourself in the parking lot if you wanted to.  It's usefulness is not limited to the general public.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2009, 03:30:49 PM »
I'll just be simple and say thanks, but no thanks.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2009, 03:56:27 PM »
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I'm assuming that you're a pro shop owner, and probably a bowler, so consider this....how many times have you been to an "out of town" tournament and had to buy a ball on site because you didn't bring the right one with you?


Never.  If I am going to make an investment to travel out of town to a tournament, I'm going to make damn sure I have all conditions covered with a thorough arsenal.



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You could drill the new ball yourself in the parking lot if you wanted to.


The day someone in a parking lot with this device can drill 4 balls and have the spans end up within 1/64th of an inch and hit my oval cuts to within a couple of thousandths, I'll be a believer.  Until then I'll continue to meet my tolerances on an Ovalmatic.



May have been a bit harsh in the first post, but so is reality.  I'm sorry that is my initial reaction to this thing.  Make sure your legal department makes it impossible for anyone to sue you for personal injury and real property damage resulting from the use of this device.  You may even want to include a waiver with the owner's manual.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2009, 04:19:32 PM »
This ball jig is really awesome. i just bought one last week and it only takes less than a half hour to drill a ball. it is extremely easy to use and set up.someone who is serious about bowling could really save themselves A LOt of money by buying this thing.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2009, 04:30:50 PM »
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This ball jig is really awesome. i just bought one last week and it only takes less than a half hour to drill a ball. it is extremely easy to use and set up.someone who is serious about bowling could really save themselves A LOt of money by buying this thing.


  I hope you didn't just create this account to tout the goodness of this item, because not many users here are going to just accept the testimony of a brand new member without some proof of experience.

  It is far too easy to check and see how long you've been a member here, and you just registered today with a total of ONE post, THIS one, so you have little credibility here, and may do more harm than good because of suspicions.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2009, 04:45:39 PM »
There are a lot of bowlers who think they can layout and even drill their own equipment.  I give the guy credit for coming up with this idea.  Guess, if you are happy with label drills, give it a try. on most balls, the cg will fall within 1 inch of the marked cg on the ball.  But what if you want to drill somthing with the cg kicked out ?  You will need a scale to insure you bring the ball back to legal specifications.

Good idea, but I think it will fail.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2009, 04:48:40 PM »
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I think everyone needs to watch this video.........wow.........
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2009, 05:22:27 PM »
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This ball jig is really awesome. i just bought one last week and it only takes less than a half hour to drill a ball. it is extremely easy to use and set up.someone who is serious about bowling could really save themselves A LOt of money by buying this thing.


  I hope you didn't just create this account to tout the goodness of this item, because not many users here are going to just accept the testimony of a brand new member without some proof of experience.

  It is far too easy to check and see how long you've been a member here, and you just registered today with a total of ONE post, THIS one, so you have little credibility here, and may do more harm than good because of suspicions.
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Agree.  This post sounds very fishy.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2009, 05:30:27 PM »
I would not buy this product but I do see where a whole lot of people would and it probably does a good job. I think he came up with a product that no one thought of before he needs to be congratulated instead of put down. For all those who purchase balls on line this would be a great deal
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2009, 12:03:42 AM »
no offense kmt, but ur response to my post didnt really explain how u would replicate ovals on fingers and thumbs that are not predrilled or dont use finger inserts. I give u credit for trying to create a product that will be of use to a wide variety of people but i think ur a shortcutting the reason why proshops are in business and thats because we have experience matching layouts and proper pitches with accuracy and repeatability. I dont see how ur jig would allow some of my customers to accurately replicate pitches or table movements that are in the ten thousandths of an inch range. And i dont remember who posted it but safety would also seem to be a concern of mine, operating power tools as easy as they are simply is not for everyone. once again im not trying to take away from ur intiative to bring a new product on the market, i just think u have a long way to go before u have something that will sell.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2009, 01:13:21 AM »
Im at work so I can only watch the short video. It is an ok idea in theory but I think it may not end well for many people.

I drill my own equipment. My brother worked in a proshop for years and we bought a Jig with a full set of bits off ebay for about $250 in 2000.(a rare and great deal for that price even at that time)

We then bought a bench top drill press for $200 at lowes and have been drilling balls every sense.

Occasionally you still see similar jigs like the one we purchased on ebay for around $250-$300. Then you could buy just the 3 or 5 drill bits that you would need for yourself from jayhawk and a press for about $200 and have a much more stable, professional system then what I've gathered from this vid for around $100 more.

The setup isn't the concern though. The lack of knowledge is.

Especially if they are right handed and order a asymmetric bowling ball with the cg kicked two inches right of the center grip line.

The chance of a costly mistake is very good.
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Re: Drill your own ball with hand held drill
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2009, 01:56:37 AM »
Is it a coincidence that the person who just made an account also put up a comment on youtube on the video that it works great and has the same username? I dont think so...! Go to the original video and look at the comments. It's both atreyn11.
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