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AlonzoHarris

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Dropping ring finger some
« on: March 21, 2017, 11:01:29 PM »
Experiencing pain in my ring finger knuckle. I'm wondering if I drop my ring finger hole just a touch if that'll help. What are some of the reasons people have dropped the ring finger down some on your equipment if you have?
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2017, 08:26:49 AM »
I had the same pain; turned out to be tendonitis.
I dropped the ring finger span by 1/8", making both finger spans equal. (5" & 5 1/8" to 5" and 5") This made the grip feel loose and uncoordinated.
I had to compensate for this by tucking my pinky, only up to the first joint. Since the tendons for the ring finger and the pinky work together, this tightened my grip just barely enough to make the grip now feel comfortable again.

Been doing this for 12 - 15 years or so now. I carry a set of Steel Fingers with me, just in case, the pain re-occurs, but it hasn't.

Until you have this (dropped ring finger) done or some other fix to stop this pain, I strongly suggest using a set of Steel fingers to reduce the potential for ongoing or permanent injury.
http://steelfingers.com/

FYI See a doctor and make sure of the cause of the pain, before doing anything else!! Unless you're sure of the cause, any cure is just a stab in the dark.
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 09:39:46 AM »
I have mine dropped a little and backed off on pitch due to less flexibility in my ring finger vs. my middle finger at the first knuckle.  It took some time and experimenting to get it right but once I found the sweet-spot with pitch and span everything felt better.

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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2017, 10:15:19 AM »
Before dropping the length, especially if it is good, try changing the pitch on your finger.  As I got older and lost flexibility in my fingers, I had to add more reverse pitch on my fingers.  If the span is still correct, don't change it.
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2017, 11:50:52 AM »
I had the same pain; turned out to be tendonitis.
I dropped the ring finger span by 1/8", making both finger spans equal. (5" & 5 1/8" to 5" and 5") This made the grip feel loose and uncoordinated.
I had to compensate for this by tucking my pinky, only up to the first joint. Since the tendons for the ring finger and the pinky work together, this tightened my grip just barely enough to make the grip now feel comfortable again.

Been doing this for 12 - 15 years or so now. I carry a set of Steel Fingers with me, just in case, the pain re-occurs, but it hasn't.

Until you have this (dropped ring finger) done or some other fix to stop this pain, I strongly suggest using a set of Steel fingers to reduce the potential for ongoing or permanent injury.
http://steelfingers.com/

FYI See a doctor and make sure of the cause of the pain, before doing anything else!! Unless you're sure of the cause, any cure is just a stab in the dark.

This season I started tucking my pinky because I feel I get a much better grip and release. I will be getting a doctors opinion in a few weeks once the season ends. I'll wait till I got his thoughts before making the change.
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2017, 11:52:31 AM »
i had my ring finger dropped a decade ago by 1/8 due to pain. no more pain.

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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2017, 12:01:20 PM »
I had the same pain; turned out to be tendonitis.
I dropped the ring finger span by 1/8", making both finger spans equal. (5" & 5 1/8" to 5" and 5") This made the grip feel loose and uncoordinated.
I had to compensate for this by tucking my pinky, only up to the first joint. Since the tendons for the ring finger and the pinky work together, this tightened my grip just barely enough to make the grip now feel comfortable again.

Been doing this for 12 - 15 years or so now. I carry a set of Steel Fingers with me, just in case, the pain re-occurs, but it hasn't.

Until you have this (dropped ring finger) done or some other fix to stop this pain, I strongly suggest using a set of Steel fingers to reduce the potential for ongoing or permanent injury.
http://steelfingers.com/

FYI See a doctor and make sure of the cause of the pain, before doing anything else!! Unless you're sure of the cause, any cure is just a stab in the dark.

This season I started tucking my pinky because I feel I get a much better grip and release. I will be getting a doctors opinion in a few weeks once the season ends. I'll wait till I got his thoughts before making the change.

If you already tuck your pinky, maybe that is what's causing this problem?? Not sure, but it's possible.
This also implies that maybe your grip wasn't measured correctly to begin with.

I'd still strongly recommend the Steel Fingers. Once on, they made zero feel difference in the grip but reduced the tension required by the ring finger plus it supported the fingers. I don't recommend bowling with pain.

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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2017, 12:08:14 PM »
I too had severe pain in my ring finger and originally went with a Sarge Easter grip.  After a couple of years, tried an old ball without the SE and there wasn't any pain.  But to make sure I wasn't causing any additional damage, I too dropped my ring finger.  Mine is shorter than my middle and I also tuck my pinkie. 

Only downside to dropping the ring finger is the possibility to come around the ball.  Make sure you stay behind the ball until the correct time.

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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2017, 01:00:51 PM »
A little more back story here. I took 10 years off. Came back and my new PSO best in the region remeasured me and said my span was way too long on my old equipment. We got me down to a good span, feels much better.

After about 6 months, being that I was fresh back into the sport, I watched others use the pinky tuck method. I tried it and loved how it was working for my game. Fast forward another 6-8 months of using it and now I experience ring finger pain. I don't want to switch back to untucking so I thought a minor adjustment with the ring finger span might be the key.
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 01:22:46 PM »
I recommend that you have your "pro" actually measure the distance of BOTH fingers when drilling a ball. There are some drillers out there that only measure the middle  finger. This is a hold over from conventional grip day when the ring finger span was a little longer than the middle finger. I have seen this happen much too often. I find that my ring finger is a little shorter than my middle.  My span is actually 4-3/4 x 4-5/8.

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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 01:41:07 PM »
I recommend that you have your "pro" actually measure the distance of BOTH fingers when drilling a ball. There are some drillers out there that only measure the middle  finger. This is a hold over from conventional grip day when the ring finger span was a little longer than the middle finger. I have seen this happen much too often. I find that my ring finger is a little shorter than my middle.  My span is actually 4-3/4 x 4-5/8.

He did. I remember us running through the two fingers measurements individually. I'm wondering if since I switched to tucking my pinky, and I tuck it to the second joint not just the first, that maybe I've created a less than healthy alteration. I'll have to run this discussion with him as well next week for his thoughts.

Is a 1/16th adjustment very noticeable?
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2017, 01:50:17 PM »
I recommend that you have your "pro" actually measure the distance of BOTH fingers when drilling a ball. There are some drillers out there that only measure the middle  finger. This is a hold over from conventional grip day when the ring finger span was a little longer than the middle finger. I have seen this happen much too often. I find that my ring finger is a little shorter than my middle.  My span is actually 4-3/4 x 4-5/8.

He did. I remember us running through the two fingers measurements individually. I'm wondering if since I switched to tucking my pinky, and I tuck it to the second joint not just the first, that maybe I've created a less than healthy alteration. I'll have to run this discussion with him as well next week for his thoughts.

Is a 1/16th adjustment very noticeable?

That was my other thought: if you're using the pinky tuck, maybe 1/16" would be enough to reduce the pain and stress.

Yes, 1/16" is noticeable. I am not saying this to brag but one ball my PSO drilled felt slightly short to me. I used it a few times and it just didn't feel right. I took it back to him and remeasured it 3 or 4 times in front of me before telling me the ring finger span was off 1/32", as near as he could tell. Needless to say I didn't ask him to fix it; it was too slight, too small to ask him to do that.
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 01:59:23 PM »
I recommend that you have your "pro" actually measure the distance of BOTH fingers when drilling a ball. There are some drillers out there that only measure the middle  finger. This is a hold over from conventional grip day when the ring finger span was a little longer than the middle finger. I have seen this happen much too often. I find that my ring finger is a little shorter than my middle.  My span is actually 4-3/4 x 4-5/8.

He did. I remember us running through the two fingers measurements individually. I'm wondering if since I switched to tucking my pinky, and I tuck it to the second joint not just the first, that maybe I've created a less than healthy alteration. I'll have to run this discussion with him as well next week for his thoughts.

Is a 1/16th adjustment very noticeable?

That was my other thought: if you're using the pinky tuck, maybe 1/16" would be enough to reduce the pain and stress.

Yes, 1/16" is noticeable. I am not saying this to brag but one ball my PSO drilled felt slightly short to me. I used it a few times and it just didn't feel right. I took it back to him and remeasured it 3 or 4 times in front of me before telling me the ring finger span was off 1/32", as near as he could tell. Needless to say I didn't ask him to fix it; it was too slight, too small to ask him to do that.

Interesting, I'm surprised you noticed 1/32" difference. I guess when we get accustomed to a very particular feel, the smallest of differences are noticed. I'll discuss a 1/16" change with him and go from there for the drilling aspect.

Still planning on the doctor opinion as well.

What about altering pitches? Did you venture down that road too?
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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 02:38:23 PM »
Just get remeasured with your pinky tucked.  If your pro shop uses a BT fitter they can measure you with your hand in the ball instead of the fitter.  If you were measured then started tucking your pinky 1/16" is not going to be enough to take the pressure off your ring finger.

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Re: Dropping ring finger some
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 10:12:06 PM »
I recommend that you have your "pro" actually measure the distance of BOTH fingers when drilling a ball. There are some drillers out there that only measure the middle  finger. This is a hold over from conventional grip day when the ring finger span was a little longer than the middle finger. I have seen this happen much too often. I find that my ring finger is a little shorter than my middle.  My span is actually 4-3/4 x 4-5/8.

He did. I remember us running through the two fingers measurements individually. I'm wondering if since I switched to tucking my pinky, and I tuck it to the second joint not just the first, that maybe I've created a less than healthy alteration. I'll have to run this discussion with him as well next week for his thoughts.

Is a 1/16th adjustment very noticeable?

That was my other thought: if you're using the pinky tuck, maybe 1/16" would be enough to reduce the pain and stress.

Yes, 1/16" is noticeable. I am not saying this to brag but one ball my PSO drilled felt slightly short to me. I used it a few times and it just didn't feel right. I took it back to him and remeasured it 3 or 4 times in front of me before telling me the ring finger span was off 1/32", as near as he could tell. Needless to say I didn't ask him to fix it; it was too slight, too small to ask him to do that.

Interesting, I'm surprised you noticed 1/32" difference. I guess when we get accustomed to a very particular feel, the smallest of differences are noticed. I'll discuss a 1/16" change with him and go from there for the drilling aspect.

Still planning on the doctor opinion as well.

What about altering pitches? Did you venture down that road too?

Some people can't feel 1/16 or  1/32, but I can. I have always have been sensitive to feel and can feel 1/32.
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