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SG17

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Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« on: August 20, 2015, 10:32:38 PM »
I am wanting to replace a well used virtual gravity as a go to heavy oil ball.  I want a ball with similar reaction shape and continuous roll.   

I haven't bought a ball in a couple years, only new ball in the last 2 years was a IQ tour that was a gift.  great ball, wrong reaction shape for what I am looking for.  actually a great compliment to the VG.

I am not really brand loyal, so willing to take suggestions. 

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2015, 08:33:24 AM »
My pick would be the Dream Big, but the Hyper Cell is proven. In my opinion, the Mastermind, Paradox, and Menace are good choices as well.
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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2015, 10:15:09 AM »
Also the dream big has the nearly the same color scheme...pink instead of orange mixed with blue and black.  Perhaps that trio if colors will help u see the ball read like your virtual...

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2015, 10:57:18 AM »
Mastermind is as close as I have seen.

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2015, 11:09:31 AM »
Like the others have mentioned, a Dream Big, Hyper Cell and Mastermind are all good choices.  The Hyper Cell and it's Nucleus Core are proven.  Anything with the Nucleus Core is worth buying.

Even though the Motiv Jackal is a pearl, it's very similar to the others here.  The benefit is it tends to be a bit cleaner and stores a bit more energy in back.  Yet it has the same 57 BTM rating as the original Mastermind.  That may be worth a look.  I'd even say the Paradox is worth a look.  That ball is probably the best ball that any brand at EBI has released since the original Mission.
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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2015, 11:59:58 PM »
thank you all for suggestions.  I have read up on several balls.

After using BTM and this site it seems the Paradox and Menace are most similar to the VG.  the Hyper cell is reported as an earlier roll.  That and I am probably the only one on the planet that didn't like the original cell and haven't touched another cell since.

based on what I have read I am zeroing in on the Menace and the Paradox, and not forgetting the dream big.  I have a friend with a similar grip that uses so many roto balls I wouldn't be surprised if he already has a menace or 2.  I may get to throw one and see for myself.

Thank you all for the suggestions.

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2015, 11:52:49 AM »
One of the problems with monster hookers has always been how quickly they lose their reaction.  Funny you mention the original Cell.  Great example.  I thought it was the greatest ball I had ever seen for about 4 weeks.  Same with the original Theory, and going back further the Infinite One from Ebonite.  Didn't throw the Vivid but I heard similar stories on it.  VG on the other hand actually was a better ball for me when it picked up some shine from the lane.  Same with the Lucid.

Other Monster hookers are too condition specific right out of the box.  Mastermind was not even real good for me on the Badger.  Had better luck with Marvel Pearl. 

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2015, 12:40:29 PM »
thug corrupt excellent ball on oil lay out 50x5x40 with a p4 hole no problem getting to the hole

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2015, 03:18:03 PM »
I have owned at least 5 Virtual Gravitys drilled every way you can imagine. I would definitely not classify them as "monster hookers."

Early continuos roll; but not monster hook.

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2015, 08:16:55 AM »
One thing to consider is if you are trying to match an old VG or are you trying to add a heavy oil piece to your arsenal. 

An old VG will generally be weaker than most heavy oil balls on the market right now and today's heavy oil balls are a bit stronger.  To me, the Zero Gravity looked close but I never got one.

But if you are looking to add a heavy oil piece, then what everyone has stated stands.

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2015, 01:47:57 PM »
Good point about the VG not being a monster hooker.  Maybe that is part of the reason the shell held up pretty well.  In any event it was the strongest ball I needed on any pattern. 

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2015, 07:15:51 AM »
Crux or Marvel-S if you can find one

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2015, 10:58:08 AM »
Should have asked for a definition at the beginning of this thread.  Did you mean long oil.  My Black Widow Legend is still the best long oil ball I have.  I bowled great with it on Badger, Paris and Scorpion.   I used my new Paradox on Chameleon, and it was great the first week, decent the second, and didn't react well at all the third week.   

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Re: Heavy Oil ball to replace Virtual Gravity
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2015, 03:59:16 PM »
The new Nirvana from Brunswick would be a great replacement for your Virtual Gravity. The ball has a brand new coverstock formulation that will keep performance longer with proper maintenance before having to do oil extraction. The New ESC coverstock is easily adjustable by putting royal compound or taking it up to 3000 or 4000. I have 2 different Nirvana's and they are usable on multiple oil conditions and neither of them start up early.
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