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BIGJOEPAPA727

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Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« on: September 22, 2008, 11:58:30 AM »
I'm having a problem thus far this winter around the 6th game in house shot tournaments where the heads start frying up and outside of 10 is giving me over reaction. I don't know the specifics, but I throw around 16.5 mph (qubica machines)for a rev rate, I'd make a blind guess at 300+ and I have a slightly low axis tilt.

My question is, is there a ball/drilling/surface prep that can help me get through the heads, control the backend and still carry?

I've tried a Groove Urethane, Neptune, Avalanche Solid,(I think the drilling I threw on it wasn't the best for what I wanted it for), Tropical Storm,  and the Bashes. I just want to see what everyone says about this issue because I'm kinda running out of ideas.

Thanks in advance everyone
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JD74

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2008, 08:09:11 PM »
Try the new Hammer Razyr, this should help you very much, this balls awesome and works very well on dry and carries good on the dry. Very impressive piece. And very cheap, not 130$ for the ball alone like the Lane#1's.
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tenpin477

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2008, 08:36:29 PM »
Lane #1 XXXL


Plastic with a real core, really can't go wrong there for dry lanes.
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KennyRambo

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2008, 08:46:53 PM »
Move left.
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BIGJOEPAPA727

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2008, 08:52:37 PM »
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Move left.


When your standing on 40 lofting the heads, missing 2 boards either way and going face, I find it hard to consistently score, so I want to find something i can produce a little more area with on house shots.

The man that owns the pro shop in the alley I go to is on Hammer staff, and he told me the Razyr would be too strong off the dry for my type of game.

I was looking into the XXXL but I was never really sure what to expect with it because I've never seen anyone throw it.

Thanks for everyones response so far, keep 'em coming =]
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StormFreak5552

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2008, 09:04:19 PM »
I'm going to have to agree with tenpin here, I do like the XXXL for dry lanes. As specified it's a plastic bowling ball, with an acutal core, what could be better!
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JD74

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2008, 09:07:17 PM »
If its going to be too strong with a normal drill, why not drill the Razyr with a pin in axis drill or something to tame down the reaction or take the cover down a little on it so it doesnt snap off the dry and it would make a smoother transition. I have 500 rpms (2 hands), so I know where your coming from.
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BIGJOEPAPA727

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2008, 09:09:22 PM »
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If its going to be too strong with a normal drill, why not drill the Razyr with a pin in axis drill or something to tame down the reaction or take the cover down a little on it so it doesnt snap off the dry and it would make a smoother transition. I have 500 rpms (2 hands), so I know where your coming from.
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Sounds like a good idea, I've never experemented with 2" or closer drills, maybe thats something I should try.
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David Lee Yskes

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2008, 11:26:34 PM »
Big Joe,

I'd say, something like the Tropic Storm or a old Big Hit, or just something with a very mild reactive cover, and polish the CRAP outa it, like Diamond gloss or something....  

ALso, you want a ball with a higher top weight above 3.5 is good, and a bigger pin too, like 3.5 to 4 so you can put the pin high above your fingers, and have the CG in a weak spot.  

The Lane1 XXL is a good idea if you can find one!!!!!!!!
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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2008, 11:35:30 PM »
I believe it's more technique oriented than ball.  Look at developing a "drag" release" explained in John Jowdy's "Bowling Execution".

 


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KennyRambo

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2008, 12:11:20 AM »
You STOOD on 40? What board are you hitting at the arrows?

I've stood on 60 lofting the left gutter and found ways to score, you can move farther left than 40.



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Move left.


When your standing on 40 lofting the heads, missing 2 boards either way and going face, I find it hard to consistently score, so I want to find something i can produce a little more area with on house shots.

The man that owns the pro shop in the alley I go to is on Hammer staff, and he told me the Razyr would be too strong off the dry for my type of game.

I was looking into the XXXL but I was never really sure what to expect with it because I've never seen anyone throw it.

Thanks for everyones response so far, keep 'em coming =]
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BIGJOEPAPA727

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 07:18:09 AM »
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You STOOD on 40? What board are you hitting at the arrows?

I've stood on 60 lofting the left gutter and found ways to score, you can move farther left than 40.


The point I was trying to make was, when everyone is playing the lane right of 4th arrow averaging 240 and I'm trying to loft the heads struggling to go even, there has to be enough out there to enable me to play more of my "comfort zone" I just dont have a piece in my hand that I can do that with.
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KennyRambo

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 04:50:06 PM »
Sometimes you have to play outside of your comfort zone.

Have you tried plastic? Usually when the lanes get that fried it can be a pretty good option.
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dukeblue87

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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 04:58:39 PM »
Watch the people that are averaging 240 and develop a release similar to theirs.
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Re: Dry lanes and 8+ game tournament help
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 04:59:47 PM »
I would definately recommend the 900 Global Link, hit it with 4000 grit abralon and then polish on top of that, great ball for dry lanes
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