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Title: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: xrayjay on July 21, 2015, 01:06:30 PM
I am returning to second shift leagues this winter. the THS is around 37', local house bowlers complained that the longer 39-40 ft pattern was too hard. These were the higher handicap bowlers.

So, when I used to bowl this late league, it can get really toasty - following a 5 man team league. but most nights, the heads were dry, mids still had some, and balls hook in the back. I don't follow the current line ups these days and I was wondering what balls should I look into?

Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: BradleyInIrving on July 21, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
Urethane and plastic maybe? :)
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Keith Frye on July 21, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Maybe you can find an Anaconda on Ebay  :P (Sorry, I couldn't help myself!)
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Good Times Good Times on July 21, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
the THS is around 37', local house bowlers complained that the longer 39-40 ft pattern was too hard.

Simply amazing.....
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: xrayjay on July 21, 2015, 03:42:22 PM
the THS is around 37', local house bowlers complained that the longer 39-40 ft pattern was too hard.

Simply amazing.....

I know.... it is what it is around here. Still this house I bowl at isn't a gimme for many, so many bowlers left and when to another house where their average increases.  Only the loyal ones have stayed at this house....
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Joker-1 on July 21, 2015, 05:16:47 PM
unless you can loft the ball to the midlanes consistently, maybe look for lower end equipment that won't read the front parts as much.
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: mechanic81 on July 21, 2015, 05:49:59 PM
I would try something like a storm tropical breeze or the storm natural pearl or 900 globals boost lineup. sounds like a pearlized weak cored ball is what is needed especially with the heads burnt up ive noticed it seems to be more and more common with people using strong solid equipment on ths patterns that the heads burn out pretty quickly so ive changed alot of my ths equipment towards weaker stuff and my scores have been much more consistent .
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: charlest on July 21, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
I am returning to second shift leagues this winter. the THS is around 37', local house bowlers complained that the longer 39-40 ft pattern was too hard. These were the higher handicap bowlers.

So, when I used to bowl this late league, it can get really toasty - following a 5 man team league. but most nights, the heads were dry, mids still had some, and balls hook in the back. I don't follow the current line ups these days and I was wondering what balls should I look into?


I wouldn't buy anything new until you learn exactly how dry it is. Unless you've already bowled on the same pattern, in the 2nd shift, in this house, you never really know how your current mildest balls will react. They might just need a slight surface adjustment to work fine.

You also don't know if the oil will be kicked outside and you can play a straighter shot (Blue Hammer or a Rebel Tank) or you will have to move deeper and use a ball that clears dryish heads and has a strongish backend (Graffiti Tag or a Ride).
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: JustRico on July 21, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
I would try a high RG ball...
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Strider on July 21, 2015, 08:08:09 PM
I would try a high RG ball...

That's so wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: BradleyInIrving on July 21, 2015, 09:22:43 PM
Ric lol..

Strider, others won't see that Ric has a sense of humor :)
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Joker-1 on July 21, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
I would try a high RG ball...

terrible lol
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: xrayjay on July 22, 2015, 10:52:30 AM
in search of.... 2.60

on a serious note...Charlest is right, I'll wait and see.

Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Good Times Good Times on July 22, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
"........she got much back"

Pics or it most certainly DID NOT HAPPEN!   >:(  :P  ;D
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: xrayjay on July 22, 2015, 01:22:32 PM
"........she got much back"

Pics or it most certainly DID NOT HAPPEN!   >:(  :P  ;D

That's why we need that non-bowl/misc forum back hehehe...
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: bltbyj on July 22, 2015, 02:24:07 PM
Sounds like Land Park bowl. LOL!
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: xrayjay on July 22, 2015, 03:15:01 PM
Sounds like Land Park bowl. LOL!

Yes sir!! I'm hoping they stretch out their THS this season. Old manager, he's a real cool dude and was just trying to make everyone happy.  If they want easy, they can go to strikes lol...
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: scotts33 on July 23, 2015, 10:24:22 AM
xrayjay--How deep can you get?  Some bowlers can play deeper inside lines but the majority don't feel comfortable moving deeper inside.  If you can move deep inside my ball of choice is a Motiv Graffiti Tag with a pin up 5" pin for my stats which are in profile.  What I look for in a ball for this is enough motor/stronger cover to kick out back row and real weak balls unless you can play a straighter line in general won't kick out the back row unless your actual rev rate is very high.

Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: bltbyj on July 23, 2015, 02:35:23 PM
Sounds like Land Park bowl. LOL!

Yes sir!! I'm hoping they stretch out their THS this season. Old manager, he's a real cool dude and was just trying to make everyone happy.  If they want easy, they can go to strikes lol...

Well if I remember right most of the bowlers went to Land Park after Alpine closed (Very Dry House) and all of their stuff was drilled to go long. I even remember when the manager at Alpine put out a heavy shot cause the scratch bowlers complained that the shot was to easy. So when the scratch bowlers showed up for league and bowled none of them even could shoot a 600. So they complained it was to hard for them to score.
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: bltbyj on July 23, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
Xrayjay you should bring your team out for the Thursday Night shootout league at Rocklin AMF.
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Brandon Riley on July 23, 2015, 02:49:02 PM
I would look into a milder pearl with a lower diff core and higher rg but with a core.  My best experiences on these kinds of patterns are with longer pin-pap layouts (5"+) and a lower pin placement so that the ball doesn't explode off the friction so much.  For the past couple of seasons that ball has been the Dude.
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: avabob on July 24, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
I am still trying to figure out how anyone of any average could think a 39-40 foot house pattern could be tougher than a shorter one.

As for equipment, I would be looking at my ride or blue hammer.
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: scotts33 on July 24, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
I am still trying to figure out how anyone of any average could think a 39-40 foot house pattern could be tougher than a shorter one. 

I would guess Bob that most that can not move inside to catch some head oil and track area players would think that ball not getting enough length, burning up and the only way to combat this is weak urethane with very little surface and/or throwing it instead of rolling it would feel shorter is more difficult.
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: xrayjay on July 24, 2015, 11:52:54 AM
Xrayjay you should bring your team out for the Thursday Night shootout league at Rocklin AMF.

We would like too, but too far for most of us who live in Elk Grove east area.

I am still trying to figure out how anyone of any average could think a 39-40 foot house pattern could be tougher than a shorter one.

As for equipment, I would be looking at my ride or blue hammer.

I don't get it myself. I've heard it was carry down issue for the cause for the change. But, in all the years I've bowled league and tourney's at this house, I almost forgot what carry down was. With the longer oil or even the shorter oil, I see the good bowlers who play straight, still play "up 5"...(it's an inside joke)

I would look into a milder pearl with a lower diff core and higher rg but with a core.  My best experiences on these kinds of patterns are with longer pin-pap layouts (5"+) and a lower pin placement so that the ball doesn't explode off the friction so much.  For the past couple of seasons that ball has been the Dude.

Thanks for the suggestion.
For the most part, this house doesn't really push me into my "danger zone" (past the 4th arrow). I've played the danger zone at other houses with THS and non THS patterns, and this house I don't really need to. Oil pushes outside most of the time...
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: bltbyj on July 24, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
Xrayjay you should bring your team out for the Thursday Night shootout league at Rocklin AMF.

We would like too, but too far for most of us who live in Elk Grove east area.

It's not that far. Lol
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: avabob on July 25, 2015, 11:09:52 AM
At 37 ft I would be looking at finding a way to play outside of 10 board.  Sometimes that is possible sometimes it isn't depending on how the early shift breaks the pattern down.  If you can find a ball that lets you stay relatively direct out that is the way to go.  If you have to move in I would go with a strong core pearl that will maintain recovery when you play away from the pocket inside 3rd arrow. 

A lot depends on your game.  I know some really good low rev players who can throw straight up the dirt on a shot like the one described here.  If you are more of a power player getting deep and sending it wide should be no problem. 
Title: Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
Post by: Ken De Beasto on July 25, 2015, 01:51:45 PM
At land park when it was dry, I come in late night, I found most success with a Brunswick sling shot. It was pretty predictable played around 10 . I also played with an uproar broken wrist throwing fast at the ten board also gave me success although when I due tournaments such as the Asian american tournament they held there I threw broken wrist at ten board cuz the wall he he.