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pitching a weight hole..
« on: April 13, 2007, 03:38:19 AM »
does it have an effect on ball reaction...say if its drilled at 0 or pitched in a certain direction..i imagine it will be minimal if anything....


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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 03:23:13 PM »
i often pitch x-holes to get more side weight out without geting the opening of the hole too close to my track. to affect reaction, it must be pitched quite a bit and is easier to do with smaller x-holes
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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 03:55:29 PM »
Mo Pinel recommends pitching 1 inch away from the grip center to increase reaction versus going in at a zero pitch while placing a hole on the VAL.

I have tried 0, 1/2 inch, and 1 inch pitching away of holes on VAL.

I get too much reaction from the 1 inch pitch...USUALLY...except on a REV Leverage drilled Ebonite pantera....sweet!

I prefer the 1/2 inch pitched holes.  I also drill holes 2 inches past pap to get almost the same reaction as the 1/2 inch pitch with the 2 inch past holes.

According to Richie of Lane 1 by doing either the pitching or the 2 inch past VAL or PAP one is taking out ending bottom weight and raising top weight to increase reaction.  I agree with this theory and frankly don't care as whatever causes it!  REaction increases with both methods!  Yeah!

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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 04:00:52 PM »
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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 05:23:43 PM »
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Mo Pinel recommends pitching 1 inch away from the grip center to increase reaction versus going in at a zero pitch while placing a hole on the VAL.

I have tried 0, 1/2 inch, and 1 inch pitching away of holes on VAL.

I get too much reaction from the 1 inch pitch...USUALLY...except on a REV Leverage drilled Ebonite pantera....sweet!

I prefer the 1/2 inch pitched holes.  I also drill holes 2 inches past pap to get almost the same reaction as the 1/2 inch pitch with the 2 inch past holes.

According to Richie of Lane 1 by doing either the pitching or the 2 inch past VAL or PAP one is taking out ending bottom weight and raising top weight to increase reaction.  I agree with this theory and frankly don't care as whatever causes it!  REaction increases with both methods!  Yeah!

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Oh no.  I thought ending weights don't matter, other than making the ball USBC legal.  Only the pin placement plays a factor in ball reaction.  The x-hole is affecting the core (core/cover combo), which in turn affects the ball reaction, not the ending weights.

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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 05:34:59 PM »
A bunch of years ago (when teh Blue Hammer was king) Mo created a drilling system called Power Rating. It was basically a series of leverage drillings with varying pin to PAP measurements and weighthole locations and pitches. Mo proved then that weighthole location and pitch changed the reaction of the ball significantly enough to make it worthwhile.

I will regularly pitch weightholes 1" away from palm to enhance the reaction. If I have to remove excess thumbweight and side I'll pitch the hole right and reverse.

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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2007, 09:47:33 AM »
What happens when you pitch the weight hole towards your center of grip?
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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 03:05:25 PM »
depends where you are in relation to the 6 3/4 from grip center line(ie YOUR PAP).  The 6 3/4 from grip center line is the equator of the ball between the top half and bottom half.

If one has a typical Pap of 5 1/4 weightholes on the VAL pitched right take out bottom weight slightly raising top.  Weightholes straight in often take out mostly top.  Weightholes angled in would tend to ONLY take top.

I would expect most reaction right, medium reaction straight in, and least reaction pitched back towards grip center or left(for the righty).

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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 04:35:40 PM »
That makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Re: pitching a weight hole..
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 04:46:25 PM »
PS...I've actually done experiment with same hole on val at the different pitches.

0, 1/2 right, 1 inch right(well really left but you know what I mean...AWAY from grip center).

I also compared the 1 inch away hole on VAL to a 2 inch past pap 0 pitch hole!  VEry similar increase in reaction from the straight in hole on VAL  Quite a bit!

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PS I now usually use holes where I want em with straight in pitch as 6 inches of flare is a ton for me!(I don't hit past pap weightholes even up to 9 inches from grip center).
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