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T-GOD

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Eliminate Having to Match Up..?
« on: November 10, 2003, 08:10:15 PM »
This is in response to Sawbones' topic about being too dependant on balls.

Would everyone like it better if we didn't have to match up, being dependant on balls..? Do these balls negate talent..? Can we avoid the dilema that we're in about having to match up and would that be beneficial..?

What does everyone think..? =:^D

 

Michael DeSantis

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Re: Eliminate Having to Match Up..?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2003, 11:45:00 AM »
I see a double-edged sword here.   One of the reasons why many of us can score higher today is because if we match the right technology to the right condition, we benefit with pin carry.  If we match wrong, we can suffer.

A knowledgeable and talented bowler today has both the mechanical skills and the ability to match up ( I lack on both counts).  Years ago, more emphasis was on skills because there were fewer selections of balls to match to the lanes.  I feel that those days were a better barometer to measure a bowler's performance skill set by rather than today,  because there were fewer variables.

Having said that, I still believe over considerable time and many venues, cream still rises to the top as it always has.  Hence a THB who matches up in one house but has no clue elsewhere, will certainly be more limited than a talented bowler who has success at many houses on many conditions.  Today, that more successful bowler will use both his bowling skills and knowledge/experience with equipment to succeed.  

Today, When Mr. 230 from one house challenges Mr. 230 from another house both using their latest "hook in the box", there will always be that element of "he beat me because he matched up better than me."  Unless both bowlers go to House #3 and both throw White Dots, we may never satisfactorily settle who the real Mr. 230 is.

In short, I would like it better if we had fewer ball choices becasue I think it would even the field more between those who can afford to buy some game and those who can't.  But then again, I am not a manufacturer of bowling balls.


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Steven

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Re: Eliminate Having to Match Up..?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2003, 12:10:53 PM »
If it comes down to having the right ball, then I would expect to consistently see lower skilled players beat higher skilled players. At least from what I see, that just doesn't happen.

The right ball is certainly part of the equation, but it won't save you from bad form, bad speed, bad line, or bad spare shooting.

If you're already fundamentally sound, the right ball for the condition at hand can make some difference, but not the whole difference. If you believe otherwise, it's an exercise in self delusion.
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Jerry Weller

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Re: Eliminate Having to Match Up..?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2003, 12:51:37 PM »
Maybe I'm nuts. Oh hell why say maybe ;-) but here's something I've observed...

As I've started to experiment with actually doing "old school" things like changing ball speed, hand positions, etc. I am getting convinced that the differences in bowling balls are at least somewhat over-rated relative to the changes that you can potentially create with the old school changes. Anybody else out there actually give those kind of things a try and agree? Or am I out to lunch on this one?

s1nger1

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Re: Eliminate Having to Match Up..?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2003, 02:02:03 PM »
Man I need to bowl in these walled up houses. I struggle day and night to keep my lower average. I never know what pattern they will put out. Plus with the kickboard being dead and the pins offset I struggle. I have an easier time with the other house but it's isn't walled up. everyone that bowls there typically shoots within -10 of there avreage to +50 of there average.



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Re: Eliminate Having to Match Up..?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2003, 10:01:05 AM »
I think the balls are much less the issue than the lanes.
It is not the wide range of technology of balls that makes 200+ avg out of marginal bowlers - it is the walled lane condition.

If you want to see a game based on skill, make the lanes patterns more difficult. We all know this, and not to beat a dead horse ----but I don't see how limiting the ball options makes anyone a better bowler rather it just makes them more versatile.  Wethere versatility is the calling card of a better bowler is left to debate.

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