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Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« on: September 28, 2009, 05:48:57 PM »
Here is the situation: We had a friend join our team 3 weeks into the winter season. She bowled that night and set her avg. Then before she could bowl again she ended up rolling her car and breaking both her arms and some head injuries that are not too serious. She will recover and be ok, Thankfully.

 However she will not be picking up a ball for quite some time though. This is where I need some advice. Let me set the scene, we told this to our secretary and she said that we would need to take her #'s for 3 weeks before reverting back to a vacancy score and that she would still be responsible to pay unless we could replace her with another bowler. I think that would be right if she had quit but she did not and I don't think she should be penalized for having bad luck. Thanks in advance for any thoughts and info as to how to handle this.

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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 03:26:16 AM »
Well, she might be responsible for two more weeks (which might be covered already if she paid the last two weeks of the league already), but I wouldn't think she would owe more than that.

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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 09:02:12 AM »
This is what is so GREAT about our country today!  A woman breaks both her arms, legs, etc..., probably can't work now - which likely places quite an additional burden on her or her family, and a stupid league is worried about collecting what, $45?  Are people just great or what?!

If I were secretary, I wouldn't even worry about it.  However, unfortunately everything is all about the $ now, so here would be my solution if the league/house is going to be a douchebag about it, I'd cover the 3 weeks for her and just recover it from any prize money received at the end of the year before it's split amongst the team.  So, if the team gets $100 back at the end of the year, you take the first $45, and the remaining $55 is split equally between you and the team.

Any chance you could have a "50/50" pot one night for her to cover the cost of her bowling commitment to the league - with any remaining money going directly to her?


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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 09:09:45 AM »
Running a 50/50 for her is a great idea.
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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 09:16:43 AM »
50/50 is a great idea, but be careful with them.

The New Jersey Gaming Commission had a huge beef with centers running 50/50s because they are a game of chance [thus falling under their "jurisdiction"] and not skill, not to mention the fact they weren't getting any action on the 50/50s.  They "fined" all the bowling centers they nabbed with an initial $3,000.00 fine, although later repealed the fine for whatever reason.

Just check yourselves and make sure there is not going to be a beef with a 50/50 in your area.


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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 09:26:43 AM »
Can't believe the League would rule as you define. If I were in that league it would be my last season!
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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 09:32:18 AM »
I believe most leagues I know of requires a 2 week notice, however there has been exceptions due do emergencies and things of that nature.
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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 09:40:00 AM »
@9andaWiggle - There will be no prize money in this scenario due to the bowler withdrawing.

In some leagues, they require the team to cover the prize money for any vacancies and then the team receives the money for the vacant spot. But if you get back $100 and it cost $180 in prize money, bad move! Glad your friend will recover and hopefully you can find a female to take her spot.
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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 10:13:06 AM »
Every league and secretary are different so it's honostly hard to answer. If you had a decent set of league officers they would find a way to help. Check to see if the center knows of any extra bowlers that could be available for you.
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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 11:00:11 AM »
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@9andaWiggle - There will be no prize money in this scenario due to the bowler withdrawing.

In some leagues, they require the team to cover the prize money for any vacancies and then the team receives the money for the vacant spot. But if you get back $100 and it cost $180 in prize money, bad move! Glad your friend will recover and hopefully you can find a female to take her spot.


I was thinking about a league I was in, the prize money was distributed per team.  We had a guy that mid-year just took off and moved out of state without giving due notice, and our Captain covered his 3 weeks.  At the end of the year when the prize money was given the team, he took the money he put in back out, then we split what was left based on how many games each member bowled that year (we discussed and agreed to this as a team before the Captain covered the 3 weeks initially).  That said, we were able to get a bowler to finish the rest of the year with us, so maybe that altered our specific outcome a bit too.

As for the 50/50, I know of the "game of chance, not skill" rule being skirted by requiring the winner to knock down at least one pin on his/her next ball to collect the money.  But yeah, it might help to look into local legalities before doing a 50/50.

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Re: Emergency withdrawl from league(HELP)
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 12:05:31 PM »
I believe the USBC rules state that you can give a written notice of withdraw, pay for 2 weeks of bowling and be done, with no issues and owing no more money. Now if the league is guaranteed, the team captain will be responsible for league fees after those two weeks, unless a paying replacement can be found (or the team will be if you split the spot among everyone equally). For those two weeks you would use her average, following whatever the league rules are for missing bowlers, then you would use a vacancy.
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