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Rileybowler

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Equipment to remove oil
« on: November 01, 2017, 02:29:39 PM »
Has anyone tried or have knowledge of the personal machines that remove oil from ball one is the Nuball and the other I think is the rejuvenator from innovative. Are they worth the investment and I would be interested if people have had problems with them and how long they have owned them. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 02:35:29 PM »
Made my own  same processor as nuball and has worked flawless for 2+ years
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 02:52:20 PM »
Curious to hear how much oil comes out of a ball as long as it is always properly cleaned immediately after a session and never put away dirty.  I have too many balls myself to be able to put enough games on any one ball to properly test the theory.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2017, 03:09:36 PM »
The Detox by Jayhawk is by far the most effective, but it's not practical for personal use, it's fairly expensive.

I've noticed a huge difference in oil absorption rate depending on the towel I use.  A Shammy will suck all the oil off a ball while most other towels just smear it around.  A ball will absorb some between coming back after your shot and when you get to it before the next one, but using a Shammy has been really good for me at preventing as much absorption as possible. 
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2017, 04:05:38 PM »
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on November 01, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
The Detox by Jayhawk is by far the most effective, but it's not practical for personal use, it's fairly expensive.

I've noticed a huge difference in oil absorption rate depending on the towel I use.  A Shammy will suck all the oil off a ball while most other towels just smear it around.  A ball will absorb some between coming back after your shot and when you get to it before the next one, but using a Shammy has been really good for me at preventing as much absorption as possible.

I still believe the vast majority of oil that comes out of the vast majority of balls gets absorbed by the ball after bowling and not during.  I agree though a good shammy is well worth it and also believe it never hurts to wipe a ball down during use.  Back to the topic at hand though.  Sorry.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2017, 06:15:15 PM »
Quote from: HackJandy on November 01, 2017, 02:52:20 PM
Curious to hear how much oil comes out of a ball as long as it is always properly cleaned immediately after a session and never put away dirty.  I have too many balls myself to be able to put enough games on any one ball to properly test the theory.

 
I wipe between shots, and I clean my stuff religiously right after each session. I have a NuBall unit, and I've almost never been able to extract oil to the surface on any of my equipment. I have de-oiled friend's balls that are never cleaned and sometimes oil will ooz out for hours. 
 
I'm a believer that if you clean well, not much will penetrate and stay trapped in the cover. Unless the newer coverstocks just don't give back using heat.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2017, 07:02:10 PM »
Quote from: Steven on November 01, 2017, 06:15:15 PM
I wipe between shots, and I clean my stuff religiously right after each session. I have a NuBall unit, and I've almost never been able to extract oil to the surface. I have de-oiled friend's balls that are never cleaned and sometimes oil will ooz out for hours. 
 
I'm a believer that if you clean well, not much will penetrate and stay in the cover. Unless the newer coverstocks just don't give back using heat.

Pretty much. I have the occasional odd ball that just seems to sponge up oil even with wiping between shots and cleaning afterwards, but it's rare. Still really happy with the NuBall unit though.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2017, 07:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Steven on November 01, 2017, 06:15:15 PM
Quote from: HackJandy on November 01, 2017, 02:52:20 PM
Curious to hear how much oil comes out of a ball as long as it is always properly cleaned immediately after a session and never put away dirty.  I have too many balls myself to be able to put enough games on any one ball to properly test the theory.

 
I wipe between shots, and I clean my stuff religiously right after each session. I have a NuBall unit, and I've almost never been able to extract oil to the surface on any of my equipment. I have de-oiled friend's balls that are never cleaned and sometimes oil will ooz out for hours. 
 
I'm a believer that if you clean well, not much will penetrate and stay trapped in the cover. Unless the newer coverstocks just don't give back using heat.

This is also my exact experience.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2017, 09:39:37 PM »
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on November 01, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
The Detox by Jayhawk is by far the most effective, but it's not practical for personal use, it's fairly expensive.

I've noticed a huge difference in oil absorption rate depending on the towel I use.  A Shammy will suck all the oil off a ball while most other towels just smear it around.  A ball will absorb some between coming back after your shot and when you get to it before the next one, but using a Shammy has been really good for me at preventing as much absorption as possible.

Loved your video on the Detox and it does look so nice.  Here is the poor man's version (below) which seems to be the same one use in this video.  Again never done this myself so buyer beware but seems doable.  Still say keeping your stuff clean religiously upfront means you can afford once in a blue moon to have the pro shop de-oil your ball but may well never need it.


https://www.amazon.com/HappyBuy-Ultrasonic-Commercial-Stainless-Solution/dp/B06XKF5F95/ref=sr_1_3
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2017, 10:41:26 PM »
I have the Innovative unit. I keep my stuff pretty clean so it takes a lot of bowling before oil starts coming out. When I do one of my friends balls that are not cleaned regularly a lot of oil comes out.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 10:00:38 AM »
Looks like Innovative no longer offers the unit anymore.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2017, 10:05:54 AM »
Quote from: JohnN on November 02, 2017, 10:00:38 AM
Looks like Innovative no longer offers the unit anymore.

Their selling it under the Vertex label

http://www.vertexbowling.com/Personal-Bowling-Ball-Revivor-PerRevivor.htm
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2017, 11:46:32 AM »
Quote from: HackJandy on November 01, 2017, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on November 01, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
The Detox by Jayhawk is by far the most effective, but it's not practical for personal use, it's fairly expensive.

I've noticed a huge difference in oil absorption rate depending on the towel I use.  A Shammy will suck all the oil off a ball while most other towels just smear it around.  A ball will absorb some between coming back after your shot and when you get to it before the next one, but using a Shammy has been really good for me at preventing as much absorption as possible.

Loved your video on the Detox and it does look so nice.  Here is the poor man's version (below) which seems to be the same one use in this video.  Again never done this myself so buyer beware but seems doable.  Still say keeping your stuff clean religiously upfront means you can afford once in a blue moon to have the pro shop de-oil your ball but may well never need it.


https://www.amazon.com/HappyBuy-Ultrasonic-Commercial-Stainless-Solution/dp/B06XKF5F95/ref=sr_1_3

Wow, that thing seems noisy! But other than the noise, the ball is being heated only on one side(the side in the solution). Over time, the differences in thermal stress created from the uneven heating would probably be a serious issue.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2017, 01:03:17 PM »
Well I suppose you could turn the ball occasionally during the process or maybe heat your water up front and don't use the built in heater.  Probably a bad idea to even recommend it as I still think you are probably best off only going to our PSO for oil extraction and only maybe once a season as with proper maintenance you shouldn't need to go more often than that.
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Re: Equipment to remove oil
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2017, 01:46:52 PM »

I second the effectiveness of the Jayhawk Detox.  It's faster than the Revivor or Rejuvenator, which do work well.

The Detox can immerse all the ball at once, but we usually put water up to the thumb hole (pointing upward).  Most balls are finished in about 30 minutes, but some will go longer if they are quite bad.  Years ago I remember us pulling oil out of a ball for 6 hours straight in the Revivor. 
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