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LuckyLefty

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Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« on: October 09, 2013, 09:17:13 PM »
Well today I pulled it out.

My old Accutread covered X Factor Deuce.  Smooth even reacting coverstock on a pretty strong core with a Moderate mass bias?  (I don't know the Mass bias factor, but I doubt .20?  Is it?)

Is there any comparable ball today?  I mean I know the Sync, I have a Mission X.
I perceive those as much stronger coverstocks and also much higher mass bias factors than the X Factor Deuce?

Any out there in today's product lines a notch down in both coverstock and  mass bias factors.

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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 09:45:04 PM »
Its likely .020 or above after drilling. You can do that with a symmetric as well with the right xhole location. Cover is the bigger factor to match.
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 10:38:51 PM »
That ball had the RAD core and I'm thinking it was around .013 asym rating, 2.53 RG and .058 diff.
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 02:46:45 AM »
LuckLefty

I would like to go on record and say that the BYTE will be very similar to the Duece type of reaction.
The BYTE is (in my humble opinion) near identical to Storm reaction of that series of balls around the RAD era.

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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 03:10:05 AM »
Yes, it is the cover I like on a similar core to today's high powered monster motors.

Bat, can you remember your reference?  I can't find.

Thanks guys.  MD,,,Byte is pearl right.

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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 04:31:27 AM »
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 10:18:40 AM »
BYTE is pearl (ERG same cover from the LUCID)
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 12:38:34 PM »
Core shell matchups can be absolutely critical on asymmetric balls.  Most solids on asymetrics have been over kill for many styles of bowler.  Too much early burn without good continuation.  Nano and Nano Pearl are good examples.  Lucid while still strong was a better matchup due to pearl shell.  Best solid asymmetric for my game was the, now discontinued, Nexxus from Brunswick.  Some other solids have been very good out of the box, but shells didn't hold up, and balls became mediocre quickly ( Cell and Theory are good examples ).  Mission X was a horrible followup to the excellent Mission. 
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 03:06:43 PM »
X Factor Deuce was one of my favorites of all time.  The Z-Diff was in the .019-.021 range, and while Accu-tread was an aggressive cover for the time, it wasn't a grabby cover by any means so it was very versatile.  Older balls I found that were very close to the Deuce in reaction and versatility were the Ebonite Mission, Ebonite SR-300, Track Kinetic, Black Widow (probably the closest).

Something that you could still find pretty easily that might be close would be the Jet Black Taboo, Track 505 C2, or Columbia Ransom Demand.  They all have enough core that you could tweak layouts on and see a dramatic difference, don't "spin up" midway up the lane when the lanes break down, and maintain a strong-smooth roll down the lane as the pattern transitions.
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 08:05:30 PM »
Quote from: avabob on October 10, 2013, 12:38:34 PM
Core shell matchups can be absolutely critical on asymmetric balls.  Most solids on asymetrics have been over kill for many styles of bowler.  Too much early burn without good continuation.  Nano and Nano Pearl are good examples.  Lucid while still strong was a better matchup due to pearl shell.  Best solid asymmetric for my game was the, now discontinued, Nexxus from Brunswick.  Some other solids have been very good out of the box, but shells didn't hold up, and balls became mediocre quickly ( Cell and Theory are good examples ).  Mission X was a horrible followup to the excellent Mission. 

I must have gotten really good ones cuz my original cell and my original theory are still strong!
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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 08:07:48 PM »
I recommend a vivid...theyre on clearance...I picked up a second...just arrived today :)
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Solid coverstock Assymetric?
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2013, 05:52:55 PM »
AvaBob,

Usually most of your comments are right on for how I see it as far as lanes and ball matchups.

However, as it is not contained in this post you may have missed is my starting point is my Trick Drilled Mission X is my starting point and just a "touch" strong on many nights and I am convinced that this powerhouse with its naturally box gritty feeling surface has been 4000d and then highly polished.  Still it looks great and is a strike and 6 pin machine!

I was hoping either my C System 3.5 drilled the exact the same trick drilling or similar on my  redrilled X Factor Deuce would be its dryer day replacement.  The same drilled C System 3 seems to just be less! and I have only used it on a really sloppy backend practice session. 

Thanks, 

Luckylefty
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