Post by: Dan Belcher on August 13, 2008, 04:56:14 AM
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Post by: SVstar34 on August 13, 2008, 01:03:57 PM
They should take Table Tennis away cause the Chinese has always dominated it, it's their national sport and they've won Gold in all events 16 out of 22 times.
U.S. has won Gold in baseball twice.
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Post by: SVstar34 on August 13, 2008, 01:12:41 PM
on edit: I am the same as you Cuda, I play baseball and bowl
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Post by: cudaskater123 on August 13, 2008, 01:18:19 PM
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Baseball is in the Olympics for now, I am watching the U.S. playing S. Korea on MSNBC. Baseball and Softball, unfortunately are not on the program for the Olympics in London 2012
on edit: I am the same as you Cuda, I play baseball and bowl
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That's cool. Everybody that plays baseball seems to love bowling too, and Vise-Versa. A lot of people that are on my bowling team lovee baseball. And some kids who play baseball at my school like bowling. Wierdd,
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Post by: AngloBowler on August 13, 2008, 01:41:48 PM
I'm not saying bowling shouldn't be, I think it should in fact. The IOC has been lobbied for several years by the FIQ and WTBA in an attempt to get bowling included as part of the olympic programme, and despite fulfilling several of the IOC's stated aims (those above as well as the objective scoring system which the IOC are in favour of when considering new sports.
When it comes down to it, the IOC don't want to expand the programme to include additional sports, for now.
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on August 14, 2008, 07:42:43 AM
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Post by: WSUstroker on August 14, 2008, 08:38:49 AM
As for the snooze fest known as Olympic baseball, I'm not terribly saddened to see it go. The Olympic baseball players this year are those who are not good enough to play in the Major Leagues, or hell, even be considered for a late season call up. If you want good international baseball competition, watch the World Baseball Classic.
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on August 14, 2008, 08:53:14 AM
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Bowling will have a tough time getting to be an Olympic sport as there are too many variables currently in equipment and lane conditions.
As for the snooze fest known as Olympic baseball, I'm not terribly saddened to see it go. The Olympic baseball players this year are those who are not good enough to play in the Major Leagues, or hell, even be considered for a late season call up. If you want good international baseball competition, watch the World Baseball Classic.
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You statement about them not being good enough to play in MLB is not true. Alot of the guys you are seeing play in the 08 games are freshly signed MLB players who are on there way up. Some are even players from teams for the WBC. The reason you don't see alot of current MLB players play in these games is because of the fact that their normal season where most of them (who have been in the league for a while) make a league minimum of $2.5 million. This isn't just american born players, this goes for guys like ichiro, dice-k, vlad. The games are just held at to important of a time, during there season for them to play. This is however only in this time not so much before. It use to be before that MLB players couldn't play because of the being a pro thing. Basketball was the first sport to get the ok for Pro to play now it is almost everything. If they bring baseball back, for the 2016 games. Then have it at the right place. You could catch enough of players from MLB play.
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Post by: triggerman on August 14, 2008, 09:02:49 AM
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Bowling will have a tough time getting to be an Olympic sport as there are too many variables currently in equipment and lane conditions.
See I hear this but totally disagree, IOC can put out a standard of patterns and say this is what we are going to bowl on, equipment aside since that is a personal choice but lane surface and oil patterns can be dictated by the IOC and thus assuring a level field as far as conditions are concerned
No reason at all that bowling should not be involved, bowling worldwide is very very big
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Post by: WSUstroker on August 14, 2008, 09:19:02 AM
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See I hear this but totally disagree, IOC can put out a standard of patterns and say this is what we are going to bowl on, equipment aside since that is a personal choice but lane surface and oil patterns can be dictated by the IOC and thus assuring a level field as far as conditions are concerned
No reason at all that bowling should not be involved, bowling worldwide is very very big
Trig, bowling is one the of sports where equipment plays a huge factor in the success of the competitor. Bowling has become just as much about thinking and understanding whats happening on the lanes as much as proper execution.
When I think of the Olympics I'm thinking of direct physical competition against other people. Ex-Track n Field (running faster, throwing farther), weightlifting, swimming. Even gymnastics is in that realm although the winners are determined by judges.
Is the IOC going to accept a sport based more on choosing the right ball before competion than actual execution? I'd like to see it but I'm not sure they will.
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Post by: triggerman on August 14, 2008, 09:31:06 AM
quote:quote:
See I hear this but totally disagree, IOC can put out a standard of patterns and say this is what we are going to bowl on, equipment aside since that is a personal choice but lane surface and oil patterns can be dictated by the IOC and thus assuring a level field as far as conditions are concerned
No reason at all that bowling should not be involved, bowling worldwide is very very big
Trig, bowling is one the of sports where equipment plays a huge factor in the success of the competitor. Bowling has become just as much about thinking and understanding whats happening on the lanes as much as proper execution.
When I think of the Olympics I'm thinking of direct physical competition against other people. Ex-Track n Field (running faster, throwing farther), weightlifting, swimming. Even gymnastics is in that realm although the winners are determined by judges.
Is the IOC going to accept a sport based more on choosing the right ball before competion than actual execution? I'd like to see it but I'm not sure they will.
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what about archery? I know I am grasping at straws here but equipment in archery definitely plays into that sport (a compound bow is advantagoous over a standard bow for most peoplem how bout the sites, arrow choice yada yada yada) the archer still has to make the shot, just like the bowler has to execute. a sport where one has to "think" or "react" to a change in condtions is nothing new,
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Post by: AngloBowler on August 14, 2008, 09:58:49 AM
Swimming: with contoured bodysuits vs speedos, etc.
Cycling: with modern materials of construction etc.
Rowing: lightweight boats and oars
Archery as stated before
And that's just off the top of my head
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Post by: pin-chaser on August 14, 2008, 02:53:05 PM
1. Cost to build a center at each location
2. Lack of spectators willing to pay to offset the cost
3. Too many sports already and too many on the "waiting" list
4. No formal international organization providing standardization
5. No formal training methods
6. No money (bowling would have to donate $Millions to the Olympic Oraginzation to be included).
Some of these things are easy to solve but others are more difficult. The main reason for the development of the Gold/Silver/Bronze formal training classes is to solve the #5 issue. If an international organization was to appear as was supported then we might have the solution to #6 and #4. As for #3 it was decided then that there are "cheaper" alternatives waiting on the list than bowling. Additionally, it was decided that only when one sport was dropped can one from the "waiting" list be added. This one will be difficult to overcome. #1 and #2 seems a bit premature to me, as a spectator sport, I would assume there would be little interest but perhaps different if it was a real sport. And Perhaps many sites would have a center that could be used or would benifit after the olympics left.
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Post by: nextbowler on August 14, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
may become. If you don't believe this, you should have tried bowling in
the old Peterson Classic tourneys. Also, luck is far too much a factor in
bowling.
Post by: BrianCRX90 on August 15, 2008, 11:24:09 AM
But yes, I'm sick of these international events with Team USA. It doesn't have the same meaning if Team USA can't be in the Olympics. For the love of God, why isn't bowling in the Olympics. To show how ridiculous this is, Snowboarding is in the winter Olympics. Now I love Snowboarding but it's only been around like 20 years so so and got into the Olympics.
I love the sports some people don't. I love Badminton in the summer and I love Curling in the winter.
I will also add I'd love the see Skateboarding in the Olympics though don't know how popular it is internationally.
Post by: justdale on August 15, 2008, 11:29:02 AM
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Bowling is too easily manipulated, no matter how standardized the variables
may become. If you don't believe this, you should have tried bowling in
the old Peterson Classic tourneys. Also, luck is far too much a factor in
bowling.
And gymnastics isn't manipulated, at least with bowling you don't judges making poor grades ( or given an extra 10th of a point) for some athletes
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