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slipperyworm

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smart account approved tournaments
« on: February 15, 2009, 01:35:39 AM »
I wanted to put out a poll and ask . Do you think its right that junior bowlers are alowed to enter adult tournaments to compete for top prize but instead of being awarded cash they receive money into college fund . some people in my area are against it and im not sure why. I see it like this it increases entries.  with the ecnomy the way it is now a days is not a bad thing it does not affect the prize ratio and if you an adult you still receive cash at the end of the tournament and from what ive seen most if the youth bowlers are not annoying. I also see it as a good way for the youth to use there ability to help them with there education. would like to hear what people have to say on this because i think your going to see more tournaments pop up like this in the future. thanks scott

 

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Re: smart account approved tournaments
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 10:02:09 AM »
I wish all tournaments allowed youth participation.  I can tell you when I was a youth I thought I was really good.  I mean for a youth I was, but I did not realize just how good some adults with experience really were.  I would have loved to go get my balls handed to me by some adults in local tournaments, because then I would have worked harder at getting better.

I'm all for allowing youths (with certain average requirements) into adult tournaments to increase prize funds, plus allowing the youths to get that experience.

I don't mind getting it handed to me by anyone as long as they throw the ball well, so bring it on.
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Re: smart account approved tournaments
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 10:37:17 AM »
thats how i feel lace them up and see how u do its part of the game. Average requirement totaly agree thats a good point.it should be up to the association and tournament directors to set limits for kids and it also gives them experience

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 10:44:44 AM »
Here in Utah it's hard enough to get people to run a tournament, let lone doing all the work that's involved in the Smart Program.

I have a problem with the smart program, ( now I'll be the first one to acknowledge that I am not totally in the loop on how the whole scholarship program even works)

the biggest part really is the fact that the junior bowler could be awarded alot of scholarship money and if he or she doesn't attend college this money stays in the program for someone else to use, so really if there is a general fund and interest is being collected on all this money, what is the extra income going to?


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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 11:25:13 AM »
to be honest dale im not sure what happens to the money either but i would have to think that if a youth bowler is going to bowl for scholarship money that they have the intentions of going to college. if not that money should be put into a funf to promote youth bowling and maybe try to help some youth that are less fortunate help them acheive there goals i alos think the usbc should have a limit on how much a youth bowler can earn if they decide to enter a adult tournaments through the smart program.I understand where you are coming from its nice to see some discusion without it turning stupid or arguementive. if this discussion interests you would love to hear somemore thoughs on it
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Re: smart account approved tournaments
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 12:14:38 PM »
Smart Account funds can be used for more than just traditional college.  Technical school, certain educational enhancement programs, even bowling camps are approved uses of the money a youth bowler earns in a Smart Fund.

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 05:04:12 PM »
thanks debina thats good to know.so after hearing that I say let the kids bowl. it could be a win win for all.

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Re: smart account approved tournaments
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2009, 06:02:04 PM »
If you want to get technical if they are bowling in the tournament you can't drink alcoholic beverages or smoke. Just think about how many bowlers will start to cry about that.

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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2009, 07:08:53 PM »
And that is just plan wrong, if I pay the money into a tournament and I would like to par take in a beverage than I should be able to do so regardless of who is also participating.
In no way should adults have to change the way they do things just because the junior program of a local association says so. I know it's a USBC rule, but still. Where do you think the money to run alot of junior programs come from, the adults pay for a lot of the bowling.



 
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If you want to get technical if they are bowling in the tournament you can't drink alcoholic beverages or smoke. Just think about how many bowlers will start to cry about that.

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2009, 07:38:06 PM »
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Few adults enjoy getting their arses handed to them by kids.
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Couldn't agree more. Kids stomp on the adults here in Bakersfield, and they take it up the arse and now youth are no longer allowed to bowl adult tournaments.
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Re: smart account approved tournaments
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2009, 07:40:06 PM »
these days id rather have that tuition money imho but if its a stakes tournament why not give them the cash.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2009, 08:04:55 PM »
i was not aware you could not have a nice cold beverage or smoke just looked that up but in ny we cant smoke in the alley anyway we have to go outside so i guess if i wanna bowl i will have to bring a cooler and put it next to my ashtray  thanks for youre input