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Ragnar

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Ethical?
« on: March 30, 2005, 05:33:28 AM »
As many of you know I've had it with my "team" and want out.  Let us assume that I find another team for next year.  I'm considering doing what my team captain did to a former member.  3 years back, on the first night of league, the capt. informed one of our bowlers that he was no longer needed on our team.  Tom was stone deaf and it took a bit to get this across.  Tom did end up bowling with another team that year, but has not been back to the bowl since.  I'm thinking about showing up on opening night next year and announcing to my former team that I've found a new gig - or maybe not saying anything, just bowling with the new team.  I know, it's petty and all that, but is it ethical?  Would you do it?
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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2005, 01:40:03 PM »
Tell them the truth, but give them the time in advance. Don't blindside them. You have every right to switch and if they don't like it then it sucks to be them. They need to grow up.

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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 01:42:27 PM »
Yeah, I think it's ethical and if it makes you happy then go ahead and do it. Just tell your team that you have had enough of them and you will not be with them next season so that they can replace you in a timely manor. Would not want to be Ricky Williams and quit before the season is about to start. But I think it's ethical because an unhappy bowler will have unhappy scores.
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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2005, 02:11:49 PM »
Rags,

What your team captain did was wrong. If you were friends at all with this Tom, call him up and see if he wants to form a team to compete against the jerks next season. Tell your team captain to look for someone else, but give him notice so you don't sink to his level. I would also tell him why you are leaving, but that's just me.  


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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2005, 02:12:06 PM »
Be the adult, on or before the last nite of league, tell them you are going to bowl with someone else.  If you wait till the first nite to screw them over, you will be the bad guy.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2005, 02:12:48 PM »
I'd do it, just because I'm a mean guy. You should be to, they've been a-holes apparently.
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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2005, 02:47:55 PM »
I would take the high road and tell them up front.

Do it the way you would want to be treated and tell him after the end of this season. Just because he is an a-hole doesn’t mean you should be one.



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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2005, 02:54:12 PM »
Don't do what you feel like emotionally, your a bigger man than that.

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2005, 02:58:17 PM »
I looked at your profile.  I'm sure you know the right way of approaching this.  You can get your point across without burning bridges.

kayoung08

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2005, 03:01:32 PM »
im always a free agent. ill bowl withanyone that wants me. my team this year has not been near the top so far but are good guys to hang out with. if it happens that i get on a better team cool, if it the same cool, no big deal, i just show up do what i can.
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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2005, 03:10:45 PM »
Why would you behave like the A-hole that youre upset with?
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2005, 03:37:14 PM »
Just tell them theres no team chemistry i have used it a couple of times, also a league cap rule gets you out of it pretty easy also say its a 845 league or whatever that you fit in with other bowlers better. That way you can say i am leaving so you guys can stay together and have enough time to find a good replacement. I have had the same used on me also so it goes both ways on getting along for 9 months or fighting with people who just have different views of bowling and life.

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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2005, 04:15:22 PM »
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Rags,

What your team captain did was wrong. If you were friends at all with this Tom, call him up and see if he wants to form a team to compete against the jerks next season. Tell your team captain to look for someone else, but give him notice so you don't sink to his level. I would also tell him why you are leaving, but that's just me.  




Bob,

I have to agree with Snap10. While you feel vengeful right now, and it does seem theoretically justified, you know that's not you and not the way YOU do things. It's fine to talk that way to vent your anger right now, but it's not the RIGHT thing to do.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2005, 04:24:27 PM »
What you could do is tell them that you are not sure if you are going to be back (at the year end banquet), then show up with your own team. That is the most spiteful I would be. If you are on their roster when the season starts can come in and bowl with someone else that could cause a whole other set of problems.
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Re: Ethical?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2005, 04:32:06 PM »
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3 years back, on the first night of league, the capt. informed one of our bowlers that he was no longer needed on our team.


That would have been the night to walk out on the first night to get your point across.

I'd let him know that you won't be back next year and that you'll disuade anyone from replacing you given the way he treats people and leave it at that.

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