Author Topic: Etiquette and rules (Read 6298 times)

J_w73 · « **on:** January 27, 2009, 09:12:48 AM »

I like how now adays you have to almost get in a fight if you request anything of anyone on the lanes. While practicing at a newly opened house I have people run up on me all the time while I am bowling. The couple of times I have asked nicely and tried to explain bowling courtesy the people wanted to fight me. Most of the time I don't even say anything because I don't want to have to deal with getting into an altercation.
Open play, ok somewhat understandable.. but league..at a different house in a different city had the same thing happen to me in a league when I ask the guy to not jump up on the approach while someone was next to him. This guy really wanted to fight. I guess he didn't like people telling him what to do.
Also, lady called me a d*ck and a piece of sh*t because I said she got a foul when she touched the lane with her hand. At first she lied and said she didn't touch and then someone else on another pair confirmed she did and then she used the excuse that she would have fallen over if she didn't put her hand down. I tried to explain that it was still a foul and a 0 count. She continued to say things under her breath all night long when I passed her.
Have asked people to not use easy slide or powder on their feet and explained to them that it is illegal if it alters the approach in anyway for me. I explained to them when I tested my slide foot I could tell that someone was using it before I even saw the package. This got into a big ordeal of how they aren't able to slide how they want without it. I continuously explained that I am sliding fine and by them using it it is making the approach unsafe for me. Finally the league officers got involved and told them to stop using it but in a way that made it look like I was being picky and an *ss. Then I have to bowl the whole night with this guy scowling at me like I did something wrong..
oh yeah.. same exact scenario when I asked someone to change the score when the ball bounced out of the gutter.

I finally have told the officials of the league that I am just going to come to them when anything happens and they can deal with it.

sorry for the rant but anyone have a good way to handle things such as this
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350-475 rpm
PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up
High Game 300 x 3
High Series 782
Book Average 215 / 205
PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22

Edited on 1/27/2009 6:13 PM

janderson · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:29:34 AM »

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This seems to be a result of children being taught
- nothing is ever their fault,
- they never have to take any responsibility for their actions,
- there is no competition in the world,
- everyone gets a passing grade,
- no one can ask or tell you to do anything you don't want to do,
- the world is your oyster,
- everyone owes you everything and
- you owe no one anything.
And these children grew up to bowl next to you.

Charlest - you forgot one:

- The rules/laws apply to everyone but me.

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leftyinsnellville · « **Reply #32 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:41:42 AM »

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...sorry for the rant but anyone have a good way to handle things such as this

Carry a sidearm. An armed society is a polite society.
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J_w73 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:00:39 AM »

In my handicapped league that make rules but then don't state the consequenses if you break the rule. And then even if there are they don't follow the rules during league. A guy came in to sub on a team that had a 212 average from another house. They told him to establish his average for the league that night. I asked what the rule for the league was and they told me it wasn't a big deal and it didn't matter. I told them even if it isn't a big deal you have to go by the rule that we made... and it is a big deal. Again I was made to look like the A-hole for wanting to go by the rules.
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16-17 mph
350-475 rpm
PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up
High Game 300 x 3
High Series 782
Book Average 215 / 205
PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22

ucumin2 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:46:17 AM »

I agree with most of what your saying but i can you old school. 2 lane courtesy is not true. Anyone who has bowled tournaments and has been bowling now a days its 1 lane and 1 lane only.

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My favorite is lining up, and having someone slide in on you in league play. I normally walk off the apporch and try an recollect myself. Only to be made out to be an a**hole bec. I walked off the lane distracting them, and this is simple 2 lane courtesy mind you. Society in general is just headed straight down the tubes, and I'm unfortunately young enough to be in for the long haul.
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J_w73 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:53:30 AM »

I agree.. open and most leagues are 1 lane. Only some scratch leagues I have bowled have been 2 lane courtesy.
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16-17 mph
350-475 rpm
PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up
High Game 300 x 3
High Series 782
Book Average 215 / 205
PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22

Smash49 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2009, 11:02:45 AM »

Charlest needs to be put in TIME OUT

jk.... and Tracy some proprietors do enforce rules. I know one chain of bowling centers that reprimands their employees if that ask a customer to behave. Their view point is that the customer is having fun and they should be allowed to have a good time. I've seen people doing hand stands on the approach with others throwing ball between their arms. The employees are afraid to say anything to the customer. The same chain allows adults to bumper bowl. 16 lb. bowling balls hitting the bumpers they just explode. No one says a thing to the customer. People allowed to open bowl like this causes part of the problem. It's not about running off customers it's just poor business practice. There is a right way and a wrong way to ask a customer to behave. Another cause is the declining amount of league bowlers. League bowlers take new league bowlers under their wing and explain the rules. I do like the idea of keeping score manually again!

Smash49
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Danes07 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2009, 11:54:17 AM »

Luckily I don't have to deal with those problems. The main house that I bowl in is very well controlled. A few months back when school was out, there were a bunch of 13-16 year olds bowling and having a good time. They were kinda loud, but not bad. After a couple of games they really started screwing around and causing some problems. The owner warned them that if they kept it up he would throw them out. A few frames later a couple of the guys decided it would be fun to throw a 6 pound ball as hard as they could. They were on the end pair. One threw the ball and it missed the lane completely, hit the wall and bounced down outback behind the lanes. Owner came back with the ball, told them all the to collect their stuff and leave. As they were returning their shoes he told them in no uncertain terms that if any of them ever came back in the house without adults, he would throw them out again.

He doesn't tolerate horseplay or people being rude, obnoxious and not follwing basic rules for a bowling alley. He will give people one warning and after that, they're done. He's asked people to leave before and they blew him off, so he shut their lane off. One of them threatened to still throw his ball down the lane until he was told the police would be called. His employees have thrown people out too, and he most definitely doesn't have a problem with it.

His business doesn't suffer either. His leagues are always full and when he has open bowling, he usually has lines of people signed up for lanes. Makes me thankful that I bowl at house that has an owner that isn't afraid to reprimand people for bad behavior and ask them to leave.

The bowling alley is Green Lakes Lanes in Fayettville, NY. If you are ever in the Central New York area, go in and bowl a few games.
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9andaWiggle · « **Reply #38 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:18:38 PM »

We need Terry Tate, the Office Linebacker to bring The Pain Train and become the "Bowling Etiquitte Linebacker".

*POW!* "Fool, you NEVER run up on someone that's making their shot! TWO LANE COURTESY MOTHER******! TWO LANE COURTESY!"

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seamistlark · « **Reply #39 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:22:44 PM »

I made the mistake of taking my sons to the Midnight Bowling one Friday. was put on a lane next to some half drunk punk with his girl.and another couple. The guys kept picking up my bowling ball and using it. I asked nicely twice for them to use the house balls they put on the machine and got wise cracking answers. Finally talked to the the lane attendant and he asked them once and they laughed. When they picked up my Resurgence the fourth time I stepped up to the return with my Momentum in hand over my head, he stopped using my stuff. Had to listen to an hour of them commenting and walking up on the approach while we were shooting but, I have learned to blockout my peripheral on the lanes. It comes in handy.
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sluggo35 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:42:07 PM »

leather belts fixed my attitude when i was a kid (lol) and some soap. bring back the draft and some people might learn to be more humble.

sluggo35 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:42:44 PM »

leather belts fixed my attitude when i was a kid (lol) and some soap. bring back the draft and some people might learn to be more humble.

Danes07 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:44:40 PM »

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I made the mistake of taking my sons to the Midnight Bowling one Friday. was put on a lane next to some half drunk punk with his girl.and another couple. The guys kept picking up my bowling ball and using it. I asked nicely twice for them to use the house balls they put on the machine and got wise cracking answers. Finally talked to the the lane attendant and he asked them once and they laughed. When they picked up my Resurgence the fourth time I stepped up to the return with my Momentum in hand over my head, he stopped using my stuff. Had to listen to an hour of them commenting and walking up on the approach while we were shooting but, I have learned to blockout my peripheral on the lanes. It comes in handy.
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Ted Domey
Columbia Resurgence
Columbia Momentum
Hammer Black Widow (Retired)
Hammer Hawg (Retired)
Ebonite Big Time Pearl
I used to bowl Candlepin, but I have found Tenpin, and will Candlepin no more.

** A Sinner Can Reform, But Stupid is Forever.**

Those people and I would have had problems. I understand recreational bowlers not realizing that you don't use someone's ball, but if they had given me problems after asking them not to use my stuff....there would have been issues.
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University at Albany 2007
-Let's Go Danes-

ROTO GRIP - King of Them All
STORM - The Bowlers Company

rvmark · « **Reply #43 on:** January 28, 2009, 03:53:53 PM »

J W 73 I know exactly what your are talking about the following happened recently.

3 weeks ago we had a bowler on the adjoining pair that continually walked up on our bowlers and we would back off of the approach and wait, it finally culminated with one of our members trying to tell them that it is rude and poor etiquette to walk up on others. He told her to just chill out, her husband went and got the card on bowling etiquette from the front counter and handed it to them and the next thing we know we have a lady from their team jumping all over our team. I quickly diffused the situation and went to speak with league secretary and the other team made a hasty retreat. The real problem was that the people they were bowling with have been bowling in this league for the last 5 years and they know the rules and did not even try and address it with them.

Rant OFF!

My eleven year old understands lane courtesy much better than several adults.

Mark

jbuzz31 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 28, 2009, 04:14:39 PM »

as far as open bowlers trying to grab my balls and use them.......woudlnt be a pretty sight after one ball let alone a few. only came close once when a younger kid (7-8 maybe) tried to pick my ball up. before i could say anything he put it down because it was too heavy lol.

as far as 1 or two lane courtesy, call me dumb but in three years of bowling i have no idea what the difference is. ive always been told and seen practiced you give/are given one lane each side of you courtesy. i dunno if thats one lane or two lane.
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J_w73 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 28, 2009, 04:23:41 PM »

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as far as open bowlers trying to grab my balls and use them.......woudlnt be a pretty sight after one ball let alone a few. only came close once when a younger kid (7-8 maybe) tried to pick my ball up. before i could say anything he put it down because it was too heavy lol.

as far as 1 or two lane courtesy, call me dumb but in three years of bowling i have no idea what the difference is. ive always been told and seen practiced you give/are given one lane each side of you courtesy. i dunno if thats one lane or two lane.
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that is one.. two is two lanes each side.
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16-17 mph
350-475 rpm
PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up
High Game 300 x 3
High Series 782
Book Average 215 / 205
PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22

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