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cav

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Everyones span
« on: April 10, 2013, 12:50:38 PM »
Hello,

Thousands of bowling balls get traded/bought on this web page.  I propose the idea of also placing them by finger span.  It saves me 25-50$ if I purchase a ball with the same finger placement.  Anyone agree?  I just bought 2 bowling balls with the same measurements as mine and saved money and time.  Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 12:52:47 PM »
I always include this measurement when I sell one, I just figured it was common sense.
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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 01:50:15 PM »
If pitches made no difference, then everyone's pitch would be 0 x 0.

For some people (a non-zero amount), the wrong pitches can mean extreme pain. Using the same span may save money right now, but at what risk in a short to a long time from now?

If you can't afford to plug and re-drill this second, have a little bit of patience and save for another week until you can afford it. Eventually your body will thank you.
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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 02:06:25 PM »
I'm more interested in the layout on a used ball than the span. If the bowler uses finger grips then it's easy enough to just do a pitch plug on the fingers and then a full plug on the thumb and keep the same basic layout. If I have to completely plug (and move) both fingers and thumb then it's a much bigger deal. 

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 02:13:06 PM »
All of these are very good points.  However, I think charlest makes the most important point.  Even if the span is right, the pitches most likely won't be, which warrants a plug and redrill anyway.  The way bowling is set up just doesn't make used equipment worth much. 
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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 04:04:19 PM »
I agree with Charlest and gizmo i can throw my brothers equipment but his finger pitch's are way different than mine so after about half a game my hand and is killing me so I can get the gist of how a ball is going to roll for me but can't throw his stuff for a prolonged amount of time.

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 08:46:18 PM »
Changing pitched doesnt always require plugging. Reslugging can be an option as well. If you buy your own slugs offline then you can save money that way as well.
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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 10:00:07 AM »
I would like to add a point if only for future reference.

For many newer bowlers, I will recommend buying a used ball to start.  This way the bowler isn't investing too much in the event they don't pursue the sport any further.  Many times I find out they buy a ball that to them feels like it fits, yet in the truest sense doesn't.  This can cause physical problems as we all know.  But to them, they don't know any better.

But much like buying a set of golf clubs off the rack, buying a used bowling ball most likely won't be the right fit for the new owner.  Yes span is an important part of the fitting process, but as charlest has stated, pitch is just as important.  Combine with this the actual drill pattern and the next thing you know, you have a ball that makes your hand hurt and doesn't react as you would like.

If you buy a used ball, go the extra step to have the ball drilled for YOU.  You wouldn't buy a new ball with someone else's drilling specs, so why buy a used ball that way.  You will score better with a properly fitted and drilled ball just as you would in golf with a properly fitted set of clubs/shafts.

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 08:33:11 AM »
Changing pitched doesnt always require plugging. Reslugging can be an option as well. If you buy your own slugs offline then you can save money that way as well.

In the thumbhole, yes, depending on thumb size and pitch difference, but trying to slug fingers doesn't work (or shouldn't be done, rather) because of the bridge thickness and just the logistics of getting it done. 
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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 09:46:25 AM »
I usually inquire about the span and pitches when buying a used ball. One seller on here, who I have multiple purchase from, has the exact span and pitches I use.  Always check his for sale posts.

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 10:22:30 AM »
Yeah, pitch is big... My first used ball purchased was a "Shift".  Being new to the buying used & not being well versed in all of the aspects that go into drilling a ball at the time, I just had the thumb hole plugged & redrilled to fit my span.  Left the fingers alone.  I learned to bowl with it, but whenever I changed to it from another ball, I noticed the difference... That ball has since cracked, but at least now, I know to just start from scratch with pre-used.  Now I got a "Nuts" pearl & "Clutch" to get plugged & re-drilled. 


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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 10:26:46 AM »
You can't be messing around with just the span. I agree with everyone in the thread. A 4 inch span with 1/2 forward in the thumb is totally going to be different than the same thing with 1/2 reverse in the thumb. Pitches matter even more than span, IMO. Cav, do yourself a solid and always get your stuff fully plugged and redrilled, unless the existing holes are EXACTLY the same pitches.

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 10:49:56 AM »
Hello,

I forgot about the pitch.  Thanks! ;)

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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 05:10:26 PM »
Used balls need to have the span adjusted proper and the pitch adjusted in the fingers and thumb properly.   I've always sold used balls fully plugged but recently people have complained about that and want balls not plugged and ready to drill.

The majority of people these days just leave whatever the finger pitches are and just re-do the thumb thus they don't like fully plugged used balls.  This is a mistake in my opinion.
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Re: Everyones span
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 06:40:35 PM »
Used balls need to have the span adjusted proper and the pitch adjusted in the fingers and thumb properly.   I've always sold used balls fully plugged but recently people have complained about that and want balls not plugged and ready to drill.

Impossible unless you know their drill/span/pitch specs.

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The majority of people these days just leave whatever the finger pitches are and just re-do the thumb thus the don't like fully plugged used balls.  This is a mistake in my opinion.


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