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splendorlex

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Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« on: July 13, 2008, 08:09:23 AM »
Does anyone use any kind of max team average?  How does it work out, and what is it set at?  It seems to me that the same "dream teams" win all the top spots year after year.  Do you have the same problems?
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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2008, 04:23:51 PM »
Never seen a max for a handicap league.  I guess if one or two teams are dominant each year, you could either impose a cap, or adjust the handicap in a way to reduce their advantage.  90-100% of their top average, negative handicap of a score that most of them are over, or 90-100% of the difference in the teams averages.
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splendorlex

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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2008, 04:31:44 PM »
I'll probably just have to live with it.  We are at 90% of 220 and have about 6 or so people who are above that regularly.  It'd be a hard sell to raise the cap number or impose a cap.
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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2008, 04:39:25 PM »
Never heard of max average but have heard many leagues using max handicap. I have also heard of min average of like 140. The league that I joined when I moved to Albert Lea I guess use to do a draft type deal. They would somehow pick team captains and then divide everyone up into different brackets to be picked from. I really would love to learn more on how they did it.
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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2008, 09:52:32 AM »
We had a handicap league with a max average cap.  It was 750 for 4.  And the same team won year in and year out with two 230 guys and 2 130 people.  They handicapped individially 90% of 200.  Eventually the handicap was adjusted to 210 and then a couple years later the cap was dropped as teams had buddies that wanted to bowl together.  Being handicapped it really didn't make much sense to put a cap on it but it was there for quite a few years.  

Now I don't know of any handicapped leagues that are average  capped.  There are quite a few scratch leagues that have low caps, like 475 for 4 women only.  The scratch leagues around here seem to be either very low cap or extremely high cap.    Only one in the summer seems to be set to have largest variety of participation at 585 trios.  You can't get the big big guys bunching up in that league.  

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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2008, 10:02:18 AM »
According to the USBC the hadicapped should be based on the highest average in the league the previous season.  It you have 1 bowler averaging 229 the the handicap should be XX% of 230.  If you have 1 guy averaging 235 then it should be XX% of 235.  As soon as you have people averaging higher than the handicap base they are at a big advantage.  If they are on the smae team then they have a huge advantage.
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splendorlex

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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2008, 10:47:34 AM »
That's exactly how it has worked.  Just a bit under 10% of the league was over the 220 cap.  All but one of the teams that finished in the top 4 had at least one guy over the cap, some had 2 guys over the cap.  The problem is, that obviously none of THOSE teams would want to bump the handicap, and that's 4 or 5 teams out of 16 that would be dead set against it.
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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2008, 11:00:41 AM »
When a vote is taken at the first league meeting you only need 51% to approve the change.  Make a motion to change the handicap base get it 2nd and have a vote.  My guess is it will get changed.
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Re: Fall Handicap Leagues: Maximum Team Average?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2008, 12:30:17 PM »
I have bowled in a league a couple of years ago where the max team average for, four bowlers was 900 it was a Scratch League.  If the Teams individual  averages from the previous year totaled over 900 they were not allowed to bowl and if the teams average went over 900 during the year the team would be broken up at the half or end of season that part is a little fuzzy.


Contact ICEMAN he is the guy that runs the Scratch League I am speaking of.

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