Author Topic: Families sitting in limited spaces (Read 3297 times)

inconsistent 1 · « **on:** July 06, 2007, 02:38:02 AM »

I have one team in my fall league that brings down their wives and sometimes kids to watch them bowl. I'm all for family fun but these same relatives sit in the chairs behind the lanes that are for the bowlers. Since there are only 5 chairs unless you get there early you're SOL. I have a bum knee and need to sit down between frames and I don't enjoy sitting in the settee area i.e. difficult to talk to teammates etc. How can I bring this up without appearing to be a jerk? This team has been in the league for years and otherwise I enjoy bowling against them.

Phoneman · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:44:54 AM »

Bring it up during the organizational meeting before the league starts. I have had this issue many times in the past. I have had it added to league rules that the sitting area is for bowlers only not guests. That is what these meetings are supposed to be about changing any rules or adding rules to your league. It has to be voted on and usually passes because I guarantee you are not the only one who has this complaint.

inconsistent 1 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:54:12 AM »

Thanks Phoneman, I'll bring it up at our meeting in August.

eagle101 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:36:45 AM »

I don't know if inconsistent1 read closely what you wrote phoneman, but the seating in the public area is not for bowlers only. The setee area is for bowlers only, and the other seats are for whoever wants to watch. I understand what you're getting at because there never seems to be enough seats.
One of the centers in our area took out the seats in the setee area and put in couches. Their reasoning was that league bowlers rarely use the setee area anyway. Open bowlers however, will enjoy the couches.
I don't think you can make a league rule about who sits where in a public area of the bowling center!

ThongPrincess · « **Reply #4 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:30:49 PM »

I was a bit confused at first. The setee area is the only area reserved for bowlers in the centers I bowl in. Any seating on the concourse, out of the setee area, is open to whoever wants to sit there. I personally prefer to sit up on the concourse, but certain league nights, if I want to do so, I get to league early or it is not going to happen.

Not to be a pain, but I don't think the bowling management would allow a rule that prevents visitors from sitting it the public area. This would reserve what in essance would be all seating for bowlers.
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Eddie M · « **Reply #5 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:40:54 PM »

There are many bowling centers that have no settee area. All those plastic seats of death have been pulled out to make more room for ball storage and to open the lanes up. The tables are the only place for the bowlers to sit down.

Most leagues that I have ever been in specificly assign each table to a lane. The team on that lane gets that table. Those seats imho should goto the people bowling. If you want someone else to sit with you, why not go get another chair for them, instead of booting your teammate off the table?
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dogman666 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:52:52 PM »

On the same subject who designs the seating areas anyway, midgets?

Eddie M · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:05:14 PM »

mean, pissed off midgets to be more exact
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mainzer · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:30:26 PM »

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On the same subject who designs the seating areas anyway, midgets?

Must be midgets because all 250 pounds of my, ''Twisted steel and sex appeal'' has a hard time moving around down in the bowlers area, so I usually park my self on the steps that lead up the concourse
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BOWL119 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:39:19 PM »

If they are not sitting in the settee area, I do nto see much you can do about it. Basically you are trying to tell your fellow bowlers that they can not bring their families to watch them bowl. If they are not in the bowlers area, then they have every right to sit where they want.

We have people constantly coming in and watching the leagues bowl. Being on a military base, we get visitors coming from other bases for a month or two. They do not want to join the league, but maybe enjoy the food and grab a beer. We can not tell them NOT to sit in the area behind the lanes where the tables are. If the area you are speaking of is correct, there is nothing a league can do about it. It is an open area period.

Do not get me wrong, I do understand your point. Your leg needs a rest and you want to sit down. I would talk to your team or the center to maybe bring on an extra chair for you to sit in during your league if there is enough room for that chair.
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BrianCRX90 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 07, 2007, 11:35:30 AM »

At first I was wondering what you were talking about the "settee" area. I've always called it a pit area. In the real nice, tournament houses you have that, plus another upper area for league/tournament seating and an area above that for general seating.

Brunswick, which I am a big fan of (especially compared to AMF) made everyone know they wanted to get the most profit from the occasional family that they can get a large sum package deal out of them and the open play bowlers attracted to cosmic bowling.

Despite what anyone at Brunswick says, they do not care about the league bowler. They care about their money, but leagues are not their priority. Otherwise, the fools that made this decision would not rip out a pit area that was obvious non league bowlers could not enter and place general seating areas there instead with house balls there as well having seats that only seat 4 people and has neon all over the place confirms they were not thinking about the league bowler.

So we place all these rules that non league bowlers cannot enter but no one cares about enforcing it anymore. It's so easy to get into everyone stopped enforcing it. I mean last night this 5 year old kid on sugar was a menace running and screaming in the bowlers area. When you have a 5 man team league there isn't enough room for the league much less non league bowlers. Again though, it's so easy to enter. You would have to bring posts and chains with "DO NOT ENTER, LEAGUE MEMBERS ONLY" around the bowlers area. So really I don't fault my leagues for enforcing the rules, but Brunswick for making their stupid "Brunswick Zone" bowling alleys.

MC · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2007, 11:51:19 AM »

I did not read the other responses, but if you need to sit down and want to sit up with the other teammates bring your own chair. It is really easy to find one of those collapsable chairs that you can find in the camping/sporting goods area in any store. If it was my family that were asked to sit elsewhere that would be the last night I would bowl in that league.
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Robadat · « **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2007, 03:52:44 PM »

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I did not read the other responses, but if you need to sit down and want to sit up with the other teammates bring your own chair. It is really easy to find one of those collapsable chairs that you can find in the camping/sporting goods area in any store. If it was my family that were asked to sit elsewhere that would be the last night I would bowl in that league.
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With all due respect,

I believe it is you and your family that should have to bring chairs for them to sit on. I believe that the settee areas should be reserved for the BOWLERS, not their children and other spectators.

I also believe that YOU, as the parent of the children in the bowling establishment, should oversee your own children and ensure that:

a) They are extremely careful with their drinks and food, so as not to cause a SAFETY hazard for the bowlers who ALWAYS end up with the soda and ketchup on the soles of the bowling shoes.

b) All accidental spills be cleaned up immediately BEFORE they become such SAFETY Hazards.

c) Your children have activities to occupy their time so they do not get bored and start roaming around looking for attention.

d)Do not INTERFERE with the routines that bowlers have established for themselves and in general, stay out of the way.

Most bowling alleys I have been in, the settee areas are much too small for a group of adults to stay in while bowling league. We do not need to worry about tripping over your little rugrats, also.

I have no problem with you bringing your children to the bowling alley provided that I and my teammates do not have to attend to their needs. That is your responsibility and no one else's.

For many league bowlers, league night is a night away from the daily routine of work and family responsibilities, and to enjoy themselves with adult company. Allow those bowlers to enjoy their night out AWAY from the kids.

Over the years, I had brought my young son to league very often, he had rules to follow if he wanted to come and he followed them. He always brought something to occupy his time (homework assignments, handheld video games, etc.)so he didn't get bored by the middle of the first game. I never had a teammate or opponent complain he was there because they never had to deal with him interfering or spilling his drinks, food, etc. If he had an accident, he immediately informed me and I isolated the area and made arrangements for clean up before it became a problem for other bowlers.
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ThongPrincess · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2007, 06:57:50 PM »

I think we have some communication problems due to different meanings of terms. I have always considered the "pit" where the pins hopefully end up on the first ball

thus the term "Ten in the Pit" when the strike has every pin clear the deck. The "setee" area is the seating nearest the ball returns and reserved for bowlers. Then there is the other areas or concourse seating which is for anyone be it bowlers or spectators.

If the bowler's family is sitting in the area reserved for bowlers, then they indeed are in the wrong place and should not be offended when asked to move. On the other hand if they are sitting in the "public" area, they have every right to be there.

Just My Humble Opinion
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« **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2007, 07:10:37 PM »

Ask the bowling center for a few folding chairs, or whatever they have in their meeting room.

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