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Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« on: November 17, 2010, 06:54:07 AM »
Ok, a lot of bowlers have played on the PBA patterns, or house representations of them and know that if it is Cheetah you play out etc.  However, you are walking into a tournament.  You have been told it is a sport shot, but not one of the PBA shots or known Kegel patterns.  No one has bowled on this, so you could not watch anyone one else bowl.  10 minutes of practice is starting.  4 bowlers per pair.  

How do you go about figuring out where to play?  

Throw your benchmark ball up the track and start adjusting?

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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 03:02:44 PM »
Usually you can at least find out the length of the pattern, that should give you a reasonable idea of where the breakpoint should be. Once you have that, it's just a matter of finding an angle that allows you to get to the pocket consistently. But that can be easier said than done!
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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 03:23:51 PM »
Basically, when you have no clue, you want to use practice to get an idea of how long the pattern is and where the friction/hold area is.  

Best thing to do is on your very first couple shots, just kind of set the ball on the lane, literally at about 50% speed, and watch how far down lane it reads. This will give you an immediate idea of whether you'll more than likely need to play an inside line(for longer patterns) or outside line(for shorter patterns).  

From there you'll then want to then try to find the oil/friction line in the pattern. Easiest way is to start at 5 and play straight up it, then move in 5 board moves.

The biggest thing from the start though is just finding the right angle of attack.

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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 04:08:17 PM »
Good rule of thumb I have used is:

(Length of oil - 60)/2 = Number of boards away from the center arrow your breakpoint should be.

For example, for a 42 ft shot, your starting breakpoint (in practice) should be at 10-11 board.  

The shorter the shot, the further out you play.  The longer the shot, the more inside you play.  Once you get some shots under your belt, you can adjust.  

This is only a rule of thumb.  There are always shots that will make you throw this concept out the window.
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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2010, 04:29:13 PM »
Like others have said, there are some formulas you can use to help determine how you should be playing. I remember something like pattern length minus 32 as a guide for finding break point, but there are other ways. In a past edition of Bowler's Journal or BTM, Wes Malott came was involved with an article called "How to Read Any Pattern in 8 shots." At least I think that's what it was. Basically, it told you where and how to throw your practice shots so that you'd know the length and shape of the pattern. I've never tried it, but I haven't bowled a tournament in a long time. It sounded like it made pretty good sense if you're in a situation in which you aren't given any clue as to what the pattern is.
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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 12:45:25 PM »
what Gene said about Wes Malott's article is pretty sound, and same goes with what SPM and Nose said....

I've always used the just throw it down 10, or just play your normal line and use the 10board @ 35ft/40ft as your break point and see what your ball does.  

And I generally use a ball that reads the lanes pretty well and isnt too jumpy on the backend.  that way you dont get a wild assortment of reactions.
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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 01:17:05 PM »
Aim to have your breakpoint at the end of the pattern... Kegal suggest you should aim to have your breakpoint at board (length of pattern -31)...

42ft pattern breakpoint should be on board 11 at the end of the pattern...

36ft pattern breakpoint should be on board 5 at the end of the pattern...

then just adjust startig position and ball to get the ball there and to the pocket..

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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 12:34:02 PM »
down and in shot around 5 board hooked to 7 pin at 50% speed..watch the breakpoint and hold of oil... from there start making adjustments to your left
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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 05:50:50 PM »
quote:
Slowinsky came up with a formula of pattern length - 35 + 4.

42 ft pattern would be 42 - 35 = 7 + 4 = 11

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/slowinski_btm_june_2007_36-41_3point_targeting.pdf

Formula is contained in an excellent article on targeting.


- 35 + 4 is exactly the same as -31...

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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 05:59:59 PM »
There is a seven shot system...  I cannot remember it right off the top of my head but I have it in my notes at the bowling center...  I know it was also published in USBowler from USBC..  Wes Malott has been know to use this system..

I know the starting two shots have to do with throwing at the 3-6 pocket from the left side with normal revs, slow speed, and the second shot is a the 4-7 from the right side, slow speed normal revs....  Gets you an idea of the length...  I will post that sometime if I can remember to grab the paper..

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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 01:10:12 PM »
Lou Marquez with Turbo Tech gave us the system as he has taught it clear back to his days at Kegel. The article with Wes Malott was something that Lou wrote for USBC magazine as well so they published it.

Try this link as it is pretty much spot on: http://www.talktenpin.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2300&Itemid=99

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Re: Figuring Out Where to Play A Sport Shot
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 01:44:08 PM »
Yeah Mike, that was the one I was talking about about..  Thanks for finding that