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lilpossum1

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Finally forced to switch hands
« on: March 28, 2016, 10:36:44 AM »
I have posted about switching hands in the past, but I don't feel like I have a choice anymore. Last night during league, I was part of the way through the third game and I felt something pop in my forearm and my thumb started hurting and tingling. Had to go find my wrist strap and brace to finish off the night. I have had this issue in the past, which is why have considered it before, though I have never acted on it. Anybody have any tips on switching hands? I think I am going to have a storm rocket drilled up first

 

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 10:50:47 AM »
I have posted about switching hands in the past, but I don't feel like I have a choice anymore. Last night during league, I was part of the way through the third game and I felt something pop in my forearm and my thumb started hurting and tingling. Had to go find my wrist strap and brace to finish off the night. I have had this issue in the past, which is why have considered it before, though I have never acted on it. Anybody have any tips on switching hands? I think I am going to have a storm rocket drilled up first

Do you find bowling entertaining enough to make it worth that much struggle?

Or is it simply an addiction at this point?

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2016, 10:53:18 AM »
Your timing is going to SUCK (more than likely)

You are going to have days that everything feels great, your timing is good or great, and then the next time at the bowling alley it is like yoy have never bowled before. Get as many reps with your opposite hand as possible. Don't worry about score, go to a local bowling alley and get as many reps as you can. If the local alley has a deal where you get X hours for a few $$, take advantage.

I would expect your ball speed to be slow. A Rocket might be too much ball to start with (no kidding).

There are going to be times you want to end on your current slide foot and you don't (timing issue again). To overcome my issues, I initially switched the # of steps I took from 5 to 4 so I started with the same foot but ended with my new slide foot. That helped my initial timing as i was wanting to start with the same foot I started with for my opposite hand, and finish with the opposite foot as well.

I would also go to a slightly lighter ball to start as well. You have bowling memory in your current arm and have built up certain muscles/strength relating directly to that. You don't have that strength or muscle memory right now in your opposite hand.

A good first ball might be a Pitch Black or any other urethane ball. Until you have better timing and decent muscle strength built up, the urethane ball will help with your misses from not overreacting on your poor shots/slow ball speed.

Good luck to you. This is not a short process. Don't expect to be great by the summer or even next fall league season. Don't get frustrated and make sure you remember that this is a marathon, not a sprint, and if you were not oing through the struggles of trying to switch hands, your only rememdy is probably to quit. Is quitting better than struggling? To me it was not, so I struggled for a few years until things started to click.


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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2016, 12:04:46 PM »
It is worth the struggle to keep bowling. A lot of the people I bowl with on my Sunday league are closer to family than some of my own family. I am not going to quit because that would mean not seeing them weekly. I will say with almost certainty that the rocket will not be too much ball for me in one house. In fact, it is probably not enough, but I don't want to go too strong because i don't know what I am going to see on the left side this summer. I am more lacking in revs than I am in speed at this poin . Last night I was throwing my right hand drilled forza just to help get my slide mechanics down before I really start working on hand. Major drift issues to each side until I started focusing on where I slide

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2016, 01:20:39 PM »
I didn't find timing to be that big of a deal.  Personally I kept the same number of steps, just because it made more sense to my head.  But yeah, you're most likely going to be pretty slow, so a Rocket will be way too much ball to begin with.  I'd also suggest a Pitch Black. 

Basically take it slow and don't force anything.  I found solace in knowing that anyone switching hands isn't supposed to be any good anyway, so I never felt any pressure to progress up until recently, but that was more self imposed.  You're going to need time for your bowling muscles to develop, plus you're also going to need time for your coordination to develop too.  Also, the left side is a bit different from the right, so let your eyes be your guide, don't try to mirror everything.  Some things are similar, some aren't, so just take it slow and easy.  Focus on mechanics, and you'll build your way up just fine. 

I also found it helpful to do as many other things as I could lefthanded just to build coordination, and found it interesting that a lot of coordination is the way your head processes and thinks about things.  Some of it is muscle memory, but I feel like more of it is the perspective you see it from.  The more you get your head to think lefthanded, the easier and the more quickly coordination will develop, in my opinion at least.  Good luck, it's a lot of work, but I find it to be more rewarding.  Small successes lefthanded FEEL bigger because of the challenges present, and yes, some of that comes from the admiration/support of other bowlers.  The support and encouragement from other bowlers actually helps a lot. 
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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 01:30:11 PM »
I can say that without a doubt, the one 300 I have thrown since converting to lefty after my injury is MUCH more special to me than my 9-300's or my 3-800's I threw as a righty.

I also found there to be less expectations. Many nights I bowled average when I was a righty, (averaged 220-225 my last few years before my injury) and felt horrible about the night.

I bowl average now (around 190) and I feel great walking out of the alley.

I shot 650+ now, and I am smiling for days.

Shoot 700....icing on the cake.

I remember shooting 700 and walking out pi$$ed off because I didn't win a bracket or I did something stupid one frame.


It is a completely different mindset. Sometimes the relief of the pressure is enough to bring much more fun back to the game. It has for me.

Good luck!

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 02:19:12 PM »
I can say that without a doubt, the one 300 I have thrown since converting to lefty after my injury is MUCH more special to me than my 9-300's or my 3-800's I threw as a righty.

I also found there to be less expectations. Many nights I bowled average when I was a righty, (averaged 220-225 my last few years before my injury) and felt horrible about the night.

I bowl average now (around 190) and I feel great walking out of the alley.

I shot 650+ now, and I am smiling for days.

Shoot 700....icing on the cake.

I remember shooting 700 and walking out pi$$ed off because I didn't win a bracket or I did something stupid one frame.


It is a completely different mindset. Sometimes the relief of the pressure is enough to bring much more fun back to the game. It has for me.

Good luck!

When I quit bowling years ago, I took up golf.

At the end of a day bowling, I would only remember the few bad shots I made.

With golf, I would remember the few good shots.....

Make that the VERY FEW good shots.


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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 02:37:03 PM »
Yep. Brought the fun back with no expectations to live up to. Glad you found something fun in golf ICDM.

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 02:57:32 PM »
That nails it on the head.  I don't have a 300 lefty yet, but I have several in the 270s with a high set of 769, and yeah the perspective is so much different.  The whole experience just constantly feels like icing on the cake no matter what. 

I can say that without a doubt, the one 300 I have thrown since converting to lefty after my injury is MUCH more special to me than my 9-300's or my 3-800's I threw as a righty.

I also found there to be less expectations. Many nights I bowled average when I was a righty, (averaged 220-225 my last few years before my injury) and felt horrible about the night.

I bowl average now (around 190) and I feel great walking out of the alley.

I shot 650+ now, and I am smiling for days.

Shoot 700....icing on the cake.

I remember shooting 700 and walking out pi$$ed off because I didn't win a bracket or I did something stupid one frame.


It is a completely different mindset. Sometimes the relief of the pressure is enough to bring much more fun back to the game. It has for me.

Good luck!
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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2016, 03:46:13 PM »
I blew my shoulder out (not Bowling related) and started bowling left-handed in June, 2014. I used to average 220. Now I average in the mid-to-high 170s. But it took until this January before I started to feel comfortable and see the light at the end of the tunnel. Last few weeks in league have seen at least one 200 and they are not flukes anymore. I just need to get rid of the 150s. I feel like next season I should average close to 190.

How old are you? I am in my late 50s and though I am pretty athletic, I think the older you are, the harder this process is.

I made two mistakes:

I used the same weight ball (15). My body was not strong enough for that, but by the time I realized it (about nine months in) I was strong enough. I would have progressed faster with a lighter ball.

I should have worked out more. If you have bowled any length of time you have asymmetric strength and flexibility. Your hips and shoulders flex better one way than the other. You arms and legs are stronger on one side than the other.

Recommendations:

First make sure that your bowling arm (assumed right?) can't be fixed. While you're there, make sure your new slide leg can handle the pressure.

Take lessons. Lots of lessons. And take videos when you practice. You will have no autopilot (muscle memory) for years.

Don't try to bowl with the same style. There are reasons why lefties play down and in. Don't fight it. And don't expect to be able to swing anything left-handed.

SPARES ARE REALLY HARD.

Practice. A lot. With a plan.

Understand that there is not a lot you can do about eye dominance and that it makes a difference.

Understand going in that this is going to likely be the most frustrating thing you have ever tried to do. But still try to have fun.

By the way, I use a Rocket and a Phaze. The Phaze is REALLY FORGIVING.

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 04:23:42 PM »
Based on what you guys are saying, I have a few things going for me. I am 22 years old and in pretty decent shape. I am naturally ambextrious, leaning more towards the left hand for fine motor skills. I was considering dropping to 14# to start with so you guys confirmed that idea for me

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 04:48:13 PM »
I was 26 when my injury occurred in 2006. I am now 36 and will be 37 later this year.

I was throwing 16# when the injury occurred as a righty. I dropped down to 14# and still throw 14# today as a lefty. The equipment is so good that I see few issues in hit. Where the issues do occur is when I get fast and just do not get enough of it at the bottom and hit the oil line, the ball has no recovery and I leave 5's all day long.


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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 06:31:24 PM »
I hurt my right shoulder sometime last year, so at the start of the 2nd half in January I decided to try LH.  Really a work in progress at this point.  As others have said, no muscle memory really shows up especially in my spare game.  I am 64 and so far, I have my averages up to the low 150 range in my three leagues. 

I did have to drop down to 13# as I found 14# to be too heavy.  If you can build up your opposite arm it would help.  I also had problems the first month or so with my new sliding leg aching badly during bowling and for about 3 hrs afterwards.  Now, it is fine. 

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2016, 03:01:27 PM »
I just called and had my pro shop order me in a 14# rocket. Last time I was over that way when my dad ordered a ball, I demoed a GB2 MVP. I liked the reaction out of it, but thought it was a bit too strong for the shot I bowled on there. In the summer league, I bet the MVP would be either just right or a touch too strong. I decided to play it safe and go with the rocket to start with. I may end up needing something stronger for this winter, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it. I think one house in my area has a 4 games for $5 deal on Wednesday . I'll have to check it out

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Re: Finally forced to switch hands
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2016, 06:18:24 PM »
For me, I prefer going a bit weaker when starting out with the opposite hand.  My thinking is that I am not going to have any kind of accuracy or consistancy so it is better for me to have a weaker ball so that when I am off, it won't be too badly off at the pins like a stronger ball would be.  Plus, I don't have the ball speed to help keep the ball online.

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