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Title: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 08, 2004, 04:45:13 AM
I dont know a whole lot about PAP and that stuff yet, still confusing to me. I found my PAP and measured it today. Its about 5 3/4 over and about 3/4 up. Is that normal? Im still curious as to learn more about it, cuz it confuses me. I know what it is and all, but, thats all I know.
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Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: RSalas on July 08, 2004, 07:51:45 PM
Depends on how you want to define normal.  

Seriously, your PAP coordinates sound fairly typical for a tweener or power tweener with a moderately high track.  My coordinates used to be close to that (5 3/8" over, 1/2" up) back when I was younger and turned the ball more.
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 09, 2004, 12:25:25 AM
actually quite the opposite. I track close to my fingers, like less then half an inch away, and like 3-4 inches from my thumb. Almost a spinner track. I will trace it in grease pencil and take a pic one day.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: 300GameBowler on July 09, 2004, 12:28:44 AM
i'm confused, arrange these names from least rev's to most:

stroker, power stroker, cranker, tweener, power tweener



my guess is tweener, power tweener, stroker, power stroker, cranker?

also, what makes each group....each, how do you distinguish?
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 09, 2004, 12:36:48 AM
yea, stroker having the lowest revs, and cranker being the highest. HAHAHA....Robet Smith, your deffinitly right there.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: RandyO on July 09, 2004, 12:58:52 AM
Schlegel makes Traber look like Robert Smith.  
But then again, he's always been in his own category: Yakker
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 09, 2004, 01:13:28 AM
quote:
how is it 3/4 up if you track closer to the fingers than the thumb?
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: Amleto on July 09, 2004, 07:05:51 AM
holding the ball upside down?
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Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: Jeffrevs on July 09, 2004, 07:25:07 AM
no, not a spinner track........high inverted. ever had a pro coach video tape your release ?? that will be able to determine what you're doing at release and he/she will be able to tell you how to change it.........
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Edited on 7/9/2004 7:21 AM
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: tenpinspro on July 09, 2004, 08:24:32 AM
Hey BK25,

If you're closer to fingers than thumb, you have what is called an inverted track like Jeff and Portside described.  Your vertical offset should be down from your mid plane, not up.  I also wouldn't describe it as high inverted if you're 3-4 inches away from your thumb.

If you tracked closer to thumb and not fingers, then your 3/4 up is an okay description.  This is more the typical semi-roll.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kennmelvin/tTracks.htm

Trace your track and compare to the pictures in this link and it'll help show you what your track is bud.

Rick



Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: tenpinspro on July 09, 2004, 08:49:08 AM
Hey DWilliamson,

I'm sorry, I'm confused.  What is 3/4 away from thumb?
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: tenpinspro on July 09, 2004, 09:05:40 AM
Oh I see, thanks but even if he meant 3/4 from thumb, he would still have an inverted high track(like Jeff said) which shouldn't have his vertical number of 3/4 up.  It should be about 0 to slightly down.

Rick
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: tenpinspro on July 09, 2004, 09:26:23 AM
You're correct, I am assuming his grip is standard but how irregular/offset would that grip have to be for him to be 3/4 up?  Would a collier drill come close to that?
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 09, 2004, 01:19:58 PM
quote:
Hey BK25,

If you're closer to fingers than thumb, you have what is called an inverted track like Jeff and Portside described.  Your vertical offset should be down from your mid plane, not up.  I also wouldn't describe it as high inverted if you're 3-4 inches away from your thumb.

If you tracked closer to thumb and not fingers, then your 3/4 up is an okay description.  This is more the typical semi-roll.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kennmelvin/tTracks.htm

Trace your track and compare to the pictures in this link and it'll help show you what your track is bud.

Rick



this explains a lot. If you look at that link, i have a cranker track, just a little farther from the thumb.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 09, 2004, 01:21:15 PM
I think i over estimated a little bit. it may not b quite 4 inches, more like 2 or 3 i suppose. I'll measure next time Im at the alley, I keep my stuff there.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Title: Re: Finally found my PAP, does it sound normal to you?
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on July 09, 2004, 01:41:42 PM
no no no, not my pap, the distance from my thumbhole that my track is. I did measure my PAP, just I didnt think to measure how far away my track is, why would I? I said Im going to measure next time I go to the bowling alley.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!