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Joe Jr

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Question about book averages...
« on: June 11, 2006, 12:34:36 PM »
When do they take your book averages? They've updated my league averages now that the leagues are done. Are the averages you finish your league with your offical books or are they the ones they took eariler in the season.
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2006, 08:54:53 PM »
If you bowled more then one league your BOOK AVERAGE will be the highest "finish average" from all the leagues.
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2006, 08:59:08 PM »
They aren't necessarily the average you finish with.  Your book is the average you have when your association cuts books.  In many associations the books are cut at the end of the fall leagues, but not in all.  Mine for example is cut about half way through the league year.

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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2006, 09:10:02 PM »
opps! I was considering BOOK AVERAGE to be the AVERAGE printed on the USBC card issued when you join each year. Guess BOOK means something else .. sorry!
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 09:20:35 PM »
Typically at the end of the season.  Depends on when your league secretary reports the averages, though.  Your "book" average is usually what's printed on your card (unless it's wrong, a 194-average guy here has a card that says 164), so the "book"-ness of that average may not happen until you get your new card.

Some tournaments say "average as of D/M/Y or current card average" with additional rules when there's a significant difference.

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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 11:59:27 PM »
April 15th is the cut for Winter Book averages.  Your USBC card should show the highest April 15th average, which is the same as your high book.  The official book should show all your leagues and the "book" for each of them. If your league ends before April 15th, then the final average is the Book average.  Our leagues are never over before that, so the final average is different from book.

They also take a summer "book" average as of August 15th, though most associations do not complie an official Summer book.  Years ago our local published both a summer and winter book.
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2006, 01:51:56 AM »
Here in Germany, official average is based upon last season's recorded league or tournament results. But you have to have played at least 24 games to receive an offcial average which is then noted on your player pass for the upcoming season.

Additionally, depending on the governing body you belong to, you might have another member card with a different average - that's in my case the result of my house league.

Furthermore, I have an "officail" training average at my club which take sinto account any officail and submitted training game of the running year (not season). The training limit is that to submit the games at least 3 club members must have played together, just to make sure that the numbers are "true". Most of these games come from my club's lane, and from traveling league.

And, lastly, I keep my personal record of any game I made this year, and keep up the overall average. For me, this one is the most relevant, together with the "official" tournament average from my player card. The training average from my club tends to be too high, I think, because I know the lane very well. Any my house league average is not representative, because the lanes are awful - even though it might be taken for "desert condition" tournament average as reference.
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2006, 07:41:21 PM »
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April 15th is the cut for Winter Book averages.  Your USBC card should show the highest April 15th average, which is the same as your high book.


In the Greater Detroit association(s), our winter book cut is April 1st.
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2006, 01:36:24 AM »
After reading the responses, I became very curious if there was any USBC guidelines for a Book Average.  All I could find is a requirement that Association Managers maintain one and the number of years they should keep the records.

It appears that each association can decide on a date for collecting averages.  Most of the tournaments I have bowled are in California and often they ask for April 15th average.  I have also seen it required that 21 games be bowled for a book average, but I couldn't find that in any of the materials I found.

So it seems the best answer to the original question is to ask your local center what your association does, or contact your association directly.
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Re: Question about book averages...
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2006, 01:42:03 AM »
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After reading the responses, I became very curious if there was any USBC guidelines for a Book Average.  All I could find is a requirement that Association Managers maintain one and the number of years they should keep the records.

It appears that each association can decide on a date for collecting averages.  Most of the tournaments I have bowled are in California and often they ask for April 15th average.  I have also seen it required that 21 games be bowled for a book average, but I couldn't find that in any of the materials I found.

So it seems the best answer to the original question is to ask your local center what your association does, or contact your association directly.
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Yea I guess i'm going to have to do that. Thanks for the replies guys (and girls)
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