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BrianCRX90

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First asymmetric ball made?
« on: April 15, 2010, 01:48:17 PM »
Just curious...I was thinking about asymmetric cores on the way home from league...(don't ask why because I think of bowling 23/7)....

What is the first asymmetric core ball made? I couldn't think of what it could be. The first one I owned was a Ebonite Matrix Trimax II which obviously proceeded the Matrix I. I'm sure I'm way too far ahead because these balls came out in like 1999ish so if there is earlier balls I have no clue what it could be. Anyone know?
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Crankenstein300

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2010, 12:46:59 PM »
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IT WAS THE PHANTOM...TWO BALLS, BLACK AND BURGANDY, AND BOTH ASYMETRICAL


There were 3 balls, Burgandy, Black and Blue
http://www.bowlingballvault.com/companies/3-brunswick/580-phantom

Both cores used are shown.


Each Phantom had a different core, so there are actually three.
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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2010, 12:53:44 PM »
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Each Phantom had a different core, so there are actually three.


Do you have a picture of the 3rd?
I only found two cores out there.
From what I can recall, I think 2 balls shared the same core, the Blue and the Black.
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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2010, 12:56:09 PM »
theres a NIB phantom in my pro shop...
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Crankenstein300

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2010, 12:59:17 PM »
I''ll dig up an old magazine with the ad for them. If I recall right, the blue had one similar to the black, but had an outer core wrapped around it. I remember this because when we tried drilling a blue for the first time, you had to watch the bit as it tended to wander when you hit that layer.

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BowlingBallVault

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2010, 01:08:15 PM »
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I''ll dig up an old magazine with the ad for them. If I recall right, the blue had one similar to the black, but had an outer core wrapped around it. I remember this because when we tried drilling a blue for the first time, you had to watch the bit as it tended to wander when you hit that layer.


Thank you, I'd appreciate the information, to make a correction.
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fluff33

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2010, 01:21:56 PM »
When did the AMF Ultra Angle come out?
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BrianCRX90

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2010, 04:50:50 PM »
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If you want to get technical, every ball with a core once drilled is asymmetrical, it's just a matter of degrees of asymmetry. So they've been around forever.



That...intentionally or not was quite funny!
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DanH78

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2010, 05:44:53 PM »
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When did the AMF Ultra Angle come out?


According to this, AMF was awarded a trademark for the Ultra Angle in 1986

http://www.trademarkia.com/ultra-angle-73615917.html


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Crankenstein300

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Re: First asymmetric ball made?
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2010, 02:14:01 PM »
Cool, my old mind isn't failing me yet

Anyhoo, each Phantom had a variation of a core called Stealthcore, with 1 being the Blue, 2 being the Black, and 3 being the Burgundy. The blue and black are the same inner shape, but the blue does have an outer core as well. I knew one of them did because of the drilling mention I made earlier. The outer core was of thick density and if your drill bits weren't sharp, it would wander some and the hole would be slightly oblong.

Here's the ad for it
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