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DP3

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My take on "Arsenals"......
« on: November 28, 2005, 04:09:52 AM »
Reading the "What's in your arsenal?" thread made me really think about this term we use and if it is really effective or not?  

I myself and alot of the bowlers I know and work with have gotten away from the top-down to-bottom type arsenals and I think alot of people would better their bowling and ball selection if they got out of the habit of specifying one ball to a certain condition.  The ladder formatting for arsenals looks good on paper, but how many of us honestly know from one shot what is exactly out there and what ball is "for the condition"?  Truth is on a great majority of house shots 90% of the balls out on the market will work on the pattern.  It's not really until you start facing certain tournament, sport, PBA, and "challenge" conditions that it takes more of a thought out decision of what to use and where to play it on the lanes.  What I am doing and what I see alot of people doing now is just getting a set of balls(anywhere from 3 to 8) with certain coverstocks and cores that they like and laying them out for a particular reaction that they want to see.  Then when we encounter lane transition it's much easier to say:

"Ok I need xxx ball that will give me more or less push/read/angle/roll" or what have you to fit the condition."

My biggest problem is what we consider or use as "dry lane balls".  This seems to be the number one misconception when trying to fit this niche.  I am not bashing any manufacturers or companies but there really is a problem with most "Dry Lane Balls" on the market.  The main problem I see is the use of aggressive coverstocks that are used on higher end balls and put into weaker weightblocks that want to push all the way through the lane with no form of read.  All this gives you is something that skates forever and checkmarks at the earliest sign of friction(whether it be at 25 feet or 50 feet).  Then when people see dry, they still play the part of the lane with the most friction instead of moving around and looking for oil or somewhere to feed the ball to down the lane.  Another thing that bothers me is the way most people lay out "dry lane balls" is completely absurd.  Alot of people figure:

"Well since this is a dry lane ball, I should drill it aggressive so it isn't too weak"

This is a major problem because now what you've done is counteracted what the ball is designed to do now you're stuck with something that's too aggressive for whatever your definition of dry may be, and not effective on anything with a larger volume of oil because the cover or core strength is too weak to give you a read of the pattern.

Since coverstock is the majority of your ball reaction, what I am seeing alot of the better players doing is going to a certain ball/favorite ball and drilling 2 or 3 of them with different layouts and cover preps to combat the transition of the lanes without having a need for a "dry lane ball" or a ball for "carrydown".  The surface matchup and layout is what determines the reaction and the need for a change, not the actual makeup of the ball or what it is designed to do.  What I am doing for the guys that I coach collegiately and on the youth level is showing them different hand positions to create needed tilt/push and matching them up with a necessary surface to combat drying/transitioning lanes and you do not need a weak ball to do it with.  

Think about it if you ever see a long format tournament situation.  As the lanes transition and dry up, look at the guys at the top of the leaderboard and look to see what they are using and where they are playing.  I'm willing to bet at least 80% of the time they are still using either the same ball they started out with and using a different release from a different angle to get to the hole, or using a semi-agressive ball with a smooth sheened surface to actually read the condition instead of giving you the "All or nothing" reaction associated with dry lane balls.  It's either all skid and jerk at the friction or nothing whatsoever.  Reading the condition is the name of the game and a ball that actually reads the condition is what separates the top guys from the pack.
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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2005, 12:42:09 PM »
Many layout stong balls weak and weak balls strong.

I remember Jim Wonders of Visionary telling me a few years back that he believes the best way to set up an arsenal is to take the balls in question and lay them all out the same way.  From heavy oil all the way to dry.  I've never tried it but the more I use equipment for about 90% of the time I think there is some merit to that issue.



 
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Anyone who has only one release, and tries to change balls to keep from moving outside their comfort zone is getting little value from an arsenal.
 


Good line Bob.

Edited on 11/28/2005 1:33 PM
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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2005, 01:13:56 PM »
DP3,
 Your post without question is the best I have ever read on this board. For that I laud you. For years I have been searching for that "genie in a bottle" dry lane ball, only to find that it does not exist. I have had my share of Wilds, Scouts, Sonic X's, Slay/R's and Dry Heat's etc. to combat drying heads and/or midlanes. Guess what? Its not the ball. As you stated "dry lane" balls are feast or famine. Not strong enough to chase the pattern in and too strong off the end of the pattern when you play straight. Instead I have enlisted the help of friends to conquer dry lanes. My good buddy who shall go unamed, recommended lengthing my swing,looking further down the lane, and coming up the back of the ball for more forward roll on drying lanes. It works great, effortless skid thru front part of the lane, reads the midlane properly, with a predictable change of direction in the back. All this with a 2000 grit shined V2. Yet I dont consider it my 'dry lane" ball, instead its my "get of jail free ball". Its amazing what sound technique can do in the game of bowling. I used to be in the "ball on the wall" club salavating at each new release. Ive found cores and covers that work for me and I will never deviate from those. I no longer "need this ball for carrydown, and this ball med light, and this ball for heavy, etc. Blah, blah, blah. A great bowler from your area once told me, "you are buying reactions, not balls". It was Brian Cavey, im sure you have heard of him. And Ive come to learn this same sentiment is echoed among most "good bowlers". I went to the PBA Chicago Classic this week and most of those guys used 2-3 balls for 14 games and they breakdown lanes in such a manner that the average league bowler will NEVER see. Its comical that 180+ bowlers show up to league with as many as 6-8 balls for a 3 GAME SET.
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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2005, 01:30:18 PM »
So what you guys are saying is, to take two of the same ball drill them differently with different cover preps. Two for oily conditions. Two for medium conditions and two for light conditions. That will cover everything you run into. Then just adjust to the condition. Or you can drill (lets say four different balls) all the same, from oily to dry and adjust. Makes since. I've bought more bowlingballs in the last two years then in the 20 years that I have been bowling. I'm not buying anymore. Soon that is (smile), I've decided to work with what I have. I'm going to redrill some of them, because now I think I know what works for me. I'm getting back to basics, adjusting.

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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2005, 01:32:22 PM »
I understand being prepared for a sport shot league, I was referring to the guys that ham it up with their buddies during the Monday Night Mens league. You know, puddle in the middle and friction to the right, provided you are right handed. 2 balls + plastic is plenty for what I describe. Anything more is overkill and actually more balls just makes things more confusing somtimes.
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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2005, 02:47:32 PM »
Great post.  I agree with a lot of what you said.

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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2005, 03:04:30 PM »
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Many layout stong balls weak and weak balls strong.

I remember Jim Wonders of Visionary telling me a few years back that he believes the best way to set up an arsenal is to take the balls in question and lay them all out the same way.  From heavy oil all the way to dry.  I've never tried it but the more I use equipment for about 90% of the time I think there is some merit to that issue.



 
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Anyone who has only one release, and tries to change balls to keep from moving outside their comfort zone is getting little value from an arsenal.
 


Good line Bob.

Edited on 11/28/2005 1:33 PM


Scott that is a wise approach.  I'm finding that if a bowler simplifies the game the easier it is.  I really feel that a bowler only needs 4 balls in an aresenal most of the time.

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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2005, 07:31:48 AM »
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I agree that a good bowler should be able to throw the eball on any part of the lane when conditions dictate it. However when the money is on the line, why would you play the middle of the lane (on drier conditions) when that is not what your comforatble with. All it takes is around $70 to $100 to buy an entry level performance ball so you can play the lane comfortable. (On oilier conditions this may be more expensive)

If you want a good dry lane ball, your old urethane ball should work fine. Little hook with a smooth arcing breakpoint.


That's not what he's saying.  Yes you want a ball that can get you threw the heads but you don't need 6 balls in an arsenal unless you play in the PBA.  Personally I have bought many balls this year.  Do I need all of them? NO.  I bought them because I just wanted to try a new ball that had a different ball motion than the ones I had already.  Basically searching for a ball that matches up for me really good.

A lot of the ball buying process for me has come down to experimenting with different types of equipment and layouts to see what works the best for me.  Well I have narrowed it down very well now and can cut my arsenal down by a lot.

Again great post!

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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2005, 08:50:30 AM »
I feel a solid arsenal would be like this.  4 balls.  

1 for heavy oil
2 for med
1 for dry

Even with this approach you could take one of the med oil balls and if you pick the correct ball it can be used on dry lanes as well.  

Here is an example of a perfect 4 ball arsenal(my opinion)
HEAVY OIL: GP2
MED OIL: SLASH
MED OIL: XCEPTION
DRY: DESERT HEAT

If the bowler has some good skill then they could get away with using the xception on dry if they don't mind playing real deep.  Put your favorite drill on all but the slash.  For the slash drill it lable for control and you should be good to go.  

There is a good 3 to 4 ball arsenal.  You could also use the xception as your spare ball if you learn how to throw straight.

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Re: My take on "Arsenals"......
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2005, 12:00:49 PM »
Personally, I would rather have equipment that will handle a wide variety of lane conditions, and then change the "look" with hand release. I can take one ball and use for medium-fresh conditions, change my release, and use it for medium-carrydown conditions.

The problem with dry lanes, that I have personally seen, is that most reactive equipment burns up way to early, an if there is oil down lane, the ball dies. For dry lanes I use my black angle. This is for toast. I can use my Crash for medium-dry all the way to med-oily, depending on how much carry down there is.

You do not need a bunch of equipment to bowl tourneys. It is easier to change lines and releases than to rely on equipment reacting a certain way. This is my opinion. We are being convinced that we need all this equipment from the manufacturers.

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Edited on 11/29/2005 12:51 PM